Nitpick/question: The ‘rationality camps’ seem to have been renamed to ‘retreats’. Why is this? A ‘retreat’ brings to mind religious connotations (and OED confirms this), and seems to augment phygish impressions.
Nitpick/question: The ‘rationality camps’ seem to have been renamed to ‘retreats’. Why is this? A ‘retreat’ brings to mind religious connotations (and OED confirms this), and seems to augment phygish impressions.
This was my main association. And “camp” has a sort of kidd-ish association for me. I feel like kids go to camp and adults go to retreats. Not sure how representative this is.
I don’t associate it with corportate retreat (religious connotations were the first to string to mind).
But even “corporate retreat” makes me think of teambuilding or blowing off steam or maybe networking or brainstorming in a different environment—not particularly learning (though I agree things like teambuilding are a kind of learning, and there are probably some with some explicit teaching going on). Whereas “camp” seems to be pretty straightforwardly about teaching (“bootcamp”).
(on the other hand, you may be able to get companies to pay more for something called a retreat than for something called a camp)
Oh, I don’t consider ‘retreats’ to be exclusively religious. But for me, it brought up religious undertones that I thought were undersirable and unintended.
Nitpick/question: The ‘rationality camps’ seem to have been renamed to ‘retreats’. Why is this? A ‘retreat’ brings to mind religious connotations (and OED confirms this), and seems to augment phygish impressions.
Agree. Retreats is a terrible name.
Convention? Conference? Session? Intensive course?
I like ‘course’ most of these.
‘Conference’ sounds like a bunch of specialist in one place to discuss some stuff.
‘Course’ indicates training, with I suppose, is the goal.
Boot camp, like the first one was called?
I prefer “conference”.
Residential seminar?
Seems like it could be read as ‘a seminar on residences.’ I was just confused when I read it.
Thank you for using “phyg.”
But don’t people associate “retreat” with corporate retreats?
This was my main association. And “camp” has a sort of kidd-ish association for me. I feel like kids go to camp and adults go to retreats. Not sure how representative this is.
How about “workshop”?
I agree about the kiddish vibe of “camp” and I also agree that “retreat” has a sort of religious hue to it as well. Some guy died on a “mysterious Buddhist retreat” recently.
I like workshop best of all the options presented so far.
No one seems to have suggested ‘class’ yet, which confuses me a little.
In my mind classes are things that I take for an hour or two, not a weekend or a whole week.
I don’t associate it with corportate retreat (religious connotations were the first to string to mind).
But even “corporate retreat” makes me think of teambuilding or blowing off steam or maybe networking or brainstorming in a different environment—not particularly learning (though I agree things like teambuilding are a kind of learning, and there are probably some with some explicit teaching going on). Whereas “camp” seems to be pretty straightforwardly about teaching (“bootcamp”).
(on the other hand, you may be able to get companies to pay more for something called a retreat than for something called a camp)
You’ve probably done the SEO research. Does it actually matter?
Oh, I don’t consider ‘retreats’ to be exclusively religious. But for me, it brought up religious undertones that I thought were undersirable and unintended.