While GWT is a model, it’s not a model of the consciousness as you use that word. It’s just a model of a human brain and some of the things happening in it. I ask you if it has subjective experiences, because that seems to be the most important aspect of consciousness to you. If you can’t find them in this model, then the model is on my side, not yours.
Purple is a colour, bitter is taste, therefore category error.
That’s ridiculous. Grapefruit is a fruit, bitter is taste, but somehow “grapefruit is bitter” is true and not a category error.
It’s very difficult to prove that something is impossible, and you can’t do it by noting that it has never happened yet.
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Then why be so sure about things?
Because then I’d have to say “dunno” about literally almost everything, including the bitterness of purple. Maybe we mean different things when we say “proof”?
While GWT is a model, it’s not a model of the consciousness as you use that word. It’s just a model of a human brain and some of the things happening in it
That’s still an irrelevant objection. The issue is whether the concept of consciousness can be built on and refined, or whether it should be abandoned. GWT shows that it can be built on, and it is unreasonable to demand perfection.
That’s ridiculous. Grapefruit is a fruit, bitter is taste, but somehow “grapefruit is bitter” is true and not a category error.
Because then I’d have to say “dunno” about literally almost everything, including the bitterness of purple.
Is that worse than saying you know things you don’t know?
Sometimes different people use the same words to mean different things. I deduce that GWT does not build on consciousness as you understand it, because it doesn’t have the most important feature to you. It builds on consciousness as I understand it. How is that irrelevant?
Is that worse than saying you know things you don’t know?
You mean, is saying “dunno” to everything worse than saying something is true without having absolute 100% confidence? Yes. What kind of question is that?
Also, why did you quote my “category error” response? This doesn’t answer that at all.
While GWT is a model, it’s not a model of the consciousness as you use that word. It’s just a model of a human brain and some of the things happening in it. I ask you if it has subjective experiences, because that seems to be the most important aspect of consciousness to you. If you can’t find them in this model, then the model is on my side, not yours.
That’s ridiculous. Grapefruit is a fruit, bitter is taste, but somehow “grapefruit is bitter” is true and not a category error.
Because then I’d have to say “dunno” about literally almost everything, including the bitterness of purple. Maybe we mean different things when we say “proof”?
That’s still an irrelevant objection. The issue is whether the concept of consciousness can be built on and refined, or whether it should be abandoned. GWT shows that it can be built on, and it is unreasonable to demand perfection.
Is that worse than saying you know things you don’t know?
Sometimes different people use the same words to mean different things. I deduce that GWT does not build on consciousness as you understand it, because it doesn’t have the most important feature to you. It builds on consciousness as I understand it. How is that irrelevant?
You mean, is saying “dunno” to everything worse than saying something is true without having absolute 100% confidence? Yes. What kind of question is that?
Also, why did you quote my “category error” response? This doesn’t answer that at all.
If we assume that the sweet spot is somwhere between 0% and 100%, are you sure you are saying “dunno” enough.
Quite sure. How about you?
And, again, what sort of question is that? What response did you expect?