I have not a slightest clue what “exterior” means.
It’s where you are willing to look, as opposed to where you are not. You keep insisting that cosnciousness can only be found in the behaviour of someone else: your opponents keep pointing out that you have the option of accessing your own.
No, you can tell if their brain is active. It’s fine to define “consciousness” = “human brain activity”,
We don’t do that. We use a medical definition. “Consciousness” has a number of uses in science.
It’s where you are willing to look, as opposed to where you are not.
That’s hardly a definition. I think it’s you who is begging the question here.
You keep insisting that cosnciousness can only be found in the behaviour of someone else
I have no idea where you got that. I explicitly state “I say you must have both”, just a couple of posts above.
The state of being aware, or perceiving physical facts or mental concepts; a state of general wakefulness and responsiveness to environment; a functioning sensorium.
Here’s a google result for “medical definition of consciousness”. It is quite close to “brain activity”, dreaming aside. If you extended the definition to non-human agents, any dumb robot would qualify. Did you have some other definition in mind?
I explicitly state “I say you must have both”, just a couple of posts above
Behaviour alone versus behaviour plus brain scans doesn’t make a relevant difference..
Brain scans are still objective data about someone else. It’sll an attempt to deal with subjectivity on an objective basis.
The medical definition of consciousness is not brain activity because there is some dirt if brain activity during, sleep states and even coma. The brain is not a PC.
It’s where you are willing to look, as opposed to where you are not. You keep insisting that cosnciousness can only be found in the behaviour of someone else: your opponents keep pointing out that you have the option of accessing your own.
We don’t do that. We use a medical definition. “Consciousness” has a number of uses in science.
That’s hardly a definition. I think it’s you who is begging the question here.
I have no idea where you got that. I explicitly state “I say you must have both”, just a couple of posts above.
Here’s a google result for “medical definition of consciousness”. It is quite close to “brain activity”, dreaming aside. If you extended the definition to non-human agents, any dumb robot would qualify. Did you have some other definition in mind?
Behaviour alone versus behaviour plus brain scans doesn’t make a relevant difference.. Brain scans are still objective data about someone else. It’sll an attempt to deal with subjectivity on an objective basis.
The medical definition of consciousness is not brain activity because there is some dirt if brain activity during, sleep states and even coma. The brain is not a PC.