Do you know any atheists who would consider it moral to teach your children fundamentally incorrect information about how the world works?
I know plenty of atheists who do teach their children about Santa Claus.
I think it is a polite fiction to suggest that atheists do not think they are morally superior
There are plenty of different atheists. People like Richard Dawkins and the New Atheist crowd do think they are morally superior. On the other hand other people who don’t believe in God don’t.
I live in Europe where belief in God is less of an issue than it is in the US. It quite possible that what you are saying is true for the atheists who know but not for most that I know because I live somewhere else.
to behave in strangely ritualistic ways which differ depending on your genitals?
Plenty of atheists do thing that women are different from men. I have no problem discussion the value of boy to man initiation rituals without any notion of God or the paranormal being involved.
That you should strive to spend as much time as possible studying the fictitious books that describe all of this,
Atheists on average have better bible knowledge than Christians if you measure it by variables such as the amount of the 10 commandments that the person can recount. I don’t think that a typical Christians spend a lot of time studying the bible.
I’m curious, do you actually think I am wrong or are you just arguing for sport?
I suppose it’s a rhetorical question. It does seem obvious to me that the reason there are billions of Christians and Moslems and Jews is because any sect except the very least religious of them puts a high premium on “educating” their children to be if not the same thing at least a memetically closely related thing. And that this “education” involves threats about what will happen to you if you don’t believe, threats that apply to you both in the afterlife they are telling you about, but threats which are quite real and physical in the world we all agree is real in much of the world.
When I say it seems obvious, I really mean that I have examined a tremendous amount of evidence, with a small amount of it seen by my own eyes and an overwhelming amount of it from reading about and talking about what actually happens in the world. So it is not a prior, it is post.
Do you seriously disagree that training of kids in the religion is not something that happens much? Or are do you object to my statements because you don’t think raising a child to think it is more valuable to study Torah than to study Physics is morally inferior to raising your child to believe that they can gather evidence, and that thousands of years old texts that make unbelievable claims should no more be believed than should brand new texts that make unbelievable claims?
Do you seriously disagree that training of kids in the religion is not something that happens much?
That’s not what my post is about. My post is about whether or not all atheists think that religious people are less moral than atheists.
In the world in which I live Jewish people make efforts to stop atheists from sending their children to Jewish kindergardens in which those children would be exposed to a bit of Torah study.
I see nothing wrong with reading the Grimm Tales to children or the Torah.
I know plenty of atheists who do teach their children about Santa Claus.
There are plenty of different atheists. People like Richard Dawkins and the New Atheist crowd do think they are morally superior. On the other hand other people who don’t believe in God don’t. I live in Europe where belief in God is less of an issue than it is in the US. It quite possible that what you are saying is true for the atheists who know but not for most that I know because I live somewhere else.
Plenty of atheists do thing that women are different from men. I have no problem discussion the value of boy to man initiation rituals without any notion of God or the paranormal being involved.
Atheists on average have better bible knowledge than Christians if you measure it by variables such as the amount of the 10 commandments that the person can recount. I don’t think that a typical Christians spend a lot of time studying the bible.
I’m curious, do you actually think I am wrong or are you just arguing for sport?
I suppose it’s a rhetorical question. It does seem obvious to me that the reason there are billions of Christians and Moslems and Jews is because any sect except the very least religious of them puts a high premium on “educating” their children to be if not the same thing at least a memetically closely related thing. And that this “education” involves threats about what will happen to you if you don’t believe, threats that apply to you both in the afterlife they are telling you about, but threats which are quite real and physical in the world we all agree is real in much of the world.
When I say it seems obvious, I really mean that I have examined a tremendous amount of evidence, with a small amount of it seen by my own eyes and an overwhelming amount of it from reading about and talking about what actually happens in the world. So it is not a prior, it is post.
Do you seriously disagree that training of kids in the religion is not something that happens much? Or are do you object to my statements because you don’t think raising a child to think it is more valuable to study Torah than to study Physics is morally inferior to raising your child to believe that they can gather evidence, and that thousands of years old texts that make unbelievable claims should no more be believed than should brand new texts that make unbelievable claims?
That’s not what my post is about. My post is about whether or not all atheists think that religious people are less moral than atheists.
In the world in which I live Jewish people make efforts to stop atheists from sending their children to Jewish kindergardens in which those children would be exposed to a bit of Torah study.
I see nothing wrong with reading the Grimm Tales to children or the Torah.