Did you read the quote? He specifically said he was not deleting it, and did not delete it at that time. And he said it wouldn’t be deleted. He only deleted some links to it, but said the direct link would continue to work.
Around 50 more comments were added to the discussion after he posted that.
It was deleted some time later. I don’t know when. Archive.org doesn’t have it.
Does it bother anyone here that (apparently) unpopular ideas are deleted with no reason given, no notice, and no accountability?
It bothers some people - for example, you—but not most of us, no. This is the internet. You need to keep the trolls off, and posting things elsewhere is easy if you feel it’s necessary.
Still, I’m not sure why it vanished, if Eliezer didn’t delete it. That seems much more bother-worthy than it’s unpopularity.
I agree. That’s exactly what I’m saying. I don’t know why or it was deleted or by who, and that bothers me. I am not complaining about unpopularity. I think unpopular (or popular) ideas shouldn’t be silently deleted by unknown people for unknown reasons. I think some moderator ought to check the history and see what happened (which is hopefully possible).
Deleting unpopular ideas is a much more common problem (bias) than deleting popular ideas. Both are bad though.
You guys, from your perspective, can regard it as something like “a critic posted some critical ideas. regular posters refuted his points in detailed argument”. that’s a great thing to keep a record of. if you see it that way, be proud or whatever. why delete it? i don’t understand.
I can tell you it was deleted long enough after the discussion had ended that i was no longer checking for new comments. it wasn’t deleted to shut the discussion up at the time. which makes it all the more mysterious. can anyone look up what happened?
Did you read the quote? He specifically said he was not deleting it, and did not delete it at that time. And he said it wouldn’t be deleted. He only deleted some links to it, but said the direct link would continue to work.
Around 50 more comments were added to the discussion after he posted that.
It was deleted some time later. I don’t know when. Archive.org doesn’t have it.
Does it bother anyone here that (apparently) unpopular ideas are deleted with no reason given, no notice, and no accountability?
It bothers some people - for example, you—but not most of us, no. This is the internet. You need to keep the trolls off, and posting things elsewhere is easy if you feel it’s necessary.
Still, I’m not sure why it vanished, if Eliezer didn’t delete it. That seems much more bother-worthy than it’s unpopularity.
I agree. That’s exactly what I’m saying. I don’t know why or it was deleted or by who, and that bothers me. I am not complaining about unpopularity. I think unpopular (or popular) ideas shouldn’t be silently deleted by unknown people for unknown reasons. I think some moderator ought to check the history and see what happened (which is hopefully possible).
Deleting unpopular ideas is a much more common problem (bias) than deleting popular ideas. Both are bad though.
You guys, from your perspective, can regard it as something like “a critic posted some critical ideas. regular posters refuted his points in detailed argument”. that’s a great thing to keep a record of. if you see it that way, be proud or whatever. why delete it? i don’t understand.
I can tell you it was deleted long enough after the discussion had ended that i was no longer checking for new comments. it wasn’t deleted to shut the discussion up at the time. which makes it all the more mysterious. can anyone look up what happened?
Unfortunately, it can be quite hard to find the right mod to ask about something, even if a mod sees it.
(That was the main reason the mass-downvoting thing was an issue until recently, if you heard about that at all.)
Oh, indeed. Just answering your question.