I would feel differently about nuke designs. As I said in the “why” links, I believe that EY has a bug when it comes to tail risks. This is an attempt to fix that bug.
Basically non-nuke censorship isn’t necessary when you use a reddit engine… and Roko’s post isn’t a nuke.
After Roko’s post on the question of enduring torture to reduce existential risks, I was sure they’re must be a SIAI/LWer who was willing to kill for the cause, but no one spoke up. Thanks :p
In this case my estimate is a 5% chance that EY wants to spread the censored material, and used censoring for publicity. Therefore spreading the censored material is questionable as a tactic.
Actually, I just sent an email. Christians/Republicans are killing ??? people for the same reason they blocked stem cell research: stupidity. Also, why you’re not including EY in that causal chain is beyond me.
In this case my estimate is a 5% chance that EY wants to spread the censored material, and used censoring for publicity. Therefore spreading the censored material is questionable as a tactic.
Be careful to keep your eye on the ball. This isn’t some zero-sum contest of wills, where if EY gets what he wants that’s bad. The ball is human welfare, or should be.
At karma 0 I can’t reply to each of you one at a time (rate limited − 10 min per post), so here are my replies in a single large comment:
@JoshuaZ
I would feel differently about nuke designs. As I said in the “why” links, I believe that EY has a bug when it comes to tail risks. This is an attempt to fix that bug.
Basically non-nuke censorship isn’t necessary when you use a reddit engine… and Roko’s post isn’t a nuke.
@rwallace
Yes, though you’d have to say more.
@jaimeastorga2000
Incredible, thanks for the link
@shokwave
Incredible. Where were you two days ago!
After Roko’s post on the question of enduring torture to reduce existential risks, I was sure they’re must be a SIAI/LWer who was willing to kill for the cause, but no one spoke up. Thanks :p
@Jack
In this case my estimate is a 5% chance that EY wants to spread the censored material, and used censoring for publicity. Therefore spreading the censored material is questionable as a tactic.
@rwallace
Great! Get EY to rot13 posts instead of censoring them.
@Psychohistorian
Fair enough. But you can’t pretend that it’s illegal when it’s not (ie. the torture/murder example you gave).
@katydee
Actually, I just sent an email. Christians/Republicans are killing ??? people for the same reason they blocked stem cell research: stupidity. Also, why you’re not including EY in that causal chain is beyond me.
@Lightwave
I think his blackmail declarations either don’t cover my precommitment, or they also require him to not obey US laws (which are also threats).
Be careful to keep your eye on the ball. This isn’t some zero-sum contest of wills, where if EY gets what he wants that’s bad. The ball is human welfare, or should be.
I was only as serious as you were :P