This is important to me because I want to have more-than-minimum wages jobs as a way of completing my education on a debit
If you join any research labs during your career (and you should) you will probably end up programming quite a bit out of necessity in BME regardless of whether you set out to do so (although I suppose being a proficient programmer isn’t the same as knowing computer science) and I think the fact that you can program at all should open up 12$-15$ / hour pre-graduation jobs. My experience among my friends is that Engineering / Math / Physics majors generally end up learning to program at some point (to the extent that people just generally expect them to be able to write basic stuff) so you’ve got a head start on that front.
I don’t expect to be making as much as an entry level biomedical engineer as I would as a programmer in Silicon Valley, if that was ever possible; nor do I believe that my income would grow at the same rate.
Is this specific to silicon valley? Nation wide, things seem roughly similarly optimistic in terms of prospects for those majors...
What is hooking me most strongly to biomedical engineering were the potentials of cognitive enhancement research and molecular design (like what they have going on at the bio-nano group at Autodesk: http://www.autodeskresearch.com/groups/nano). If these were the careers I was optimizing towards as an ends, it might make more sense to actual model what skills and people will actually be needed to develop these technologies and take advantage of them. After writing this I feel less strongly about these exact fields or careers. Industry research still seems like a good exercise.
I’m guessing that computer science majors can often pursue these biomedical-ish sorts of careers, but the reverse is not true (Biomedical Engineers typically don’t pursue computer science-ish careers).
Also, don’t forget that some colleges allow you to do independent majors, so depending on the level of flexibility in the institution you can potentially hybridize the two.
I’m guessing that computer science majors can often pursue these biomedical-ish sorts of careers, but the reverse is not true (Biomedical Engineers typically don’t pursue computer science-ish careers).
I am strongly interested in figuring out if this is true. Do you have any thoughts on how I would do this?
To do this your best bet is to talk to large numbers of biomedical engineering alumni. As a data point, you mentioned before that SFU has one of the most respectable biomed engineering programs. As another data point, University of Toronto doesn’t allow general stream undergraduate engineers to choose certain specialties requiring that extra bit of intellectual horsepower unless you are able to enter (and survive) the more theoretical Engineering Science program. Biomed Engineering is one of the specialties that falls in this category.
I feel the reason that most biomed engineers don’t pursue CS-ish careers is because many of them feel that their additional knowledge, training and suffering should be used for more “important” pursuits (grad school, designing life-saving medical devices, etc.). Combined with the general engineering school attitude that their education is more rigorous or harder than probably any other major in university (other than perhaps actuarial), and you have a situation where most engineers freshly graduated (barring Computer Engineers) would view pursuing a CS-ish career as a major step back.
However, given your stated interest in other goals (e.g. cognitive science, human cybernetics/enhancements/augmentation), this may not be a bad path to take provided you are mindful of and can navigate the immediate post-graduation job interviews.
As others suggested in this thread, it seems that you’re probably much more geared towards a startup culture, in which case if you’ve chosen your electives correctly in 3rd and 4th year you would hopefully have had the chance to focus in on data visualization and/or bioinformatics and show an impressive body of work.
If you are motivated enough you may also try to take CS & math courses in the summer, or work on design projects to build up a body of work. Ideally summers would also be taken up with internships also, but at least the studying intensity would be somewhat reduced to allow you to get ahead on other credits/courses/knowledge/portfolio.
If you join any research labs during your career (and you should) you will probably end up programming quite a bit out of necessity in BME regardless of whether you set out to do so (although I suppose being a proficient programmer isn’t the same as knowing computer science) and I think the fact that you can program at all should open up 12$-15$ / hour pre-graduation jobs. My experience among my friends is that Engineering / Math / Physics majors generally end up learning to program at some point (to the extent that people just generally expect them to be able to write basic stuff) so you’ve got a head start on that front.
Is this specific to silicon valley? Nation wide, things seem roughly similarly optimistic in terms of prospects for those majors...
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I’m guessing that computer science majors can often pursue these biomedical-ish sorts of careers, but the reverse is not true (Biomedical Engineers typically don’t pursue computer science-ish careers).
Also, don’t forget that some colleges allow you to do independent majors, so depending on the level of flexibility in the institution you can potentially hybridize the two.
I am strongly interested in figuring out if this is true. Do you have any thoughts on how I would do this?
To do this your best bet is to talk to large numbers of biomedical engineering alumni. As a data point, you mentioned before that SFU has one of the most respectable biomed engineering programs. As another data point, University of Toronto doesn’t allow general stream undergraduate engineers to choose certain specialties requiring that extra bit of intellectual horsepower unless you are able to enter (and survive) the more theoretical Engineering Science program. Biomed Engineering is one of the specialties that falls in this category.
I feel the reason that most biomed engineers don’t pursue CS-ish careers is because many of them feel that their additional knowledge, training and suffering should be used for more “important” pursuits (grad school, designing life-saving medical devices, etc.). Combined with the general engineering school attitude that their education is more rigorous or harder than probably any other major in university (other than perhaps actuarial), and you have a situation where most engineers freshly graduated (barring Computer Engineers) would view pursuing a CS-ish career as a major step back.
However, given your stated interest in other goals (e.g. cognitive science, human cybernetics/enhancements/augmentation), this may not be a bad path to take provided you are mindful of and can navigate the immediate post-graduation job interviews.
As others suggested in this thread, it seems that you’re probably much more geared towards a startup culture, in which case if you’ve chosen your electives correctly in 3rd and 4th year you would hopefully have had the chance to focus in on data visualization and/or bioinformatics and show an impressive body of work.
If you are motivated enough you may also try to take CS & math courses in the summer, or work on design projects to build up a body of work. Ideally summers would also be taken up with internships also, but at least the studying intensity would be somewhat reduced to allow you to get ahead on other credits/courses/knowledge/portfolio.