Yeah. I like the way antanaclasis phrased it as “how much of a change you would have to make to the mindset of a person at each level to get them to level 1”. And I think it’s important to point out that it’s just their current mindset. It’s not like saying “hey, words actually correspond to object-level reality” to a person who made a level three statement would be a new idea to them.
That said, it seems to me useful to distinguish between people who know the factual truth and are lying about it, from people who see reality as just some kind of “social consensus”, from people who are merely mechanically saying the words without attaching any meaning of it.
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Basically, I treat it as a fake framework, like Enneagram or MBTI. In some situations, it allows me to express complex ideas shortly. (“She is extraverted” = do not expect her to sit quietly and read books, when she has an opportunity to socialize instead. “He made a level-3 statement” = he just signalled his group membership, do not expect him to care whether his statements are technically true.) I am not trying to shoehorn all situations into the model. I actually rarely use this model at all—for me it is in the “insight porn” category (interesting to discuss, not really used for anything important).
Ok this all makes sense to me. I feel basically exactly the same. Thank you. I feel satisfied about my understanding of simulacra levels now.
How consistent are people at using specific levels?
Yeah. I like the way antanaclasis phrased it as “how much of a change you would have to make to the mindset of a person at each level to get them to level 1”. And I think it’s important to point out that it’s just their current mindset. It’s not like saying “hey, words actually correspond to object-level reality” to a person who made a level three statement would be a new idea to them.
Ok this all makes sense to me. I feel basically exactly the same. Thank you. I feel satisfied about my understanding of simulacra levels now.
Yeah I agree with this as well.