Downvoted because, while I agree with the content of the message [1], I object to the way it was delivered, which seems to me to imply that an acceptable reaction to those who make the mistake is, “That was so stupid, I’m not even going to explain why you’re wrong. Just do what I say.” That they’re worth little enough to the community as to be acceptable targets of ridicule. If I had been publicly admonished in this way, I would feel alienated.
[1] Frivolous use of the word “rationality” and its conjugates in post titles needs to be curtailed and prevented.
Edited to clarify. (Thanks, wedrifid!) Original text follows for context, but please disregard.
Downvoted for status signalling at the expense of newcomers who can reasonably be expected to not have read A Human’s Guide to Words yet, without at least linking to an accessible explanation for those who might misinterpret the joke.
People are remarkably good at inferring the context and intended message about social norms from the sparse information in a joke. Most people reading this title would be able to understand the sentiment and infer the approximate context that caused it.
Is the temporary amusement of some at the sniping of those others’ status worth potentially alienating them from the community, even if they number less than “most”? I do not want such “ridicule of the less socially experienced and/or quick to read sequences” norms to become prevalent here.
Is the temporary amusement of some at the sniping of those others’ status
This wasn’t done. “My enemy is status signalling” is a moderately effective general purpose attack against positions one doesn’t like but doesn’t apply here (except in the Hansonian “Everything is Signalling” sense.)
I do not want such “ridicule of the less socially experienced and/or quick to read sequences” norms to become prevalent here.
And this isn’t relevant. In fact, familiarity with the sequences would be in some ways negatively useful in the context (given that it may give the assumption that such usages of Rational in titles was the endorsed norm.)
This wasn’t done. “My enemy is status signalling” is a moderately effective general purpose attack against positions one doesn’t like but doesn’t apply here (except in the Hansonian “Everything is Signalling” sense.)
I don’t consider Vaniver an enemy, but will forgo brevity and taboo “status” to better show where I think I disagree with you:
I agree with the content of the message; that frivolous use of the word “rationality” and its conjugates in post titles needs to be curtailed and prevented.
I object to that message’s delivery, which seems to me to imply that an acceptable reaction to those who make that mistake are, “That was so stupid, I’m not even going to explain why you’re wrong. Just do what I say.” That they’re worth little enough to the community as to make them acceptable targets of public ridicule. If I had made the mistake, I would feel alienated by this.
And this isn’t relevant. In fact, familiarity with the sequences would be in some ways negatively useful in the context (given that it may give the assumption that such usages of Rational in titles was the endorsed norm.)
You’re right. What I meant was closer to, “insufficiently exposed to those portions of the sequences that warn against improper uses of words as to have internalized a certain level of caution about how they communicate,” but I hadn’t recalled the confounding counterexamples you reference (as mentioned here) at the time.
I also notice that “misinterpreting the joke” has little to do with my actual objection and will amend the great-grandparent accordingly. Thank you for prompting me to clarify.
I object to that message’s delivery, which seems to me to imply that an acceptable reaction to those who make that mistake are, “That was so stupid, I’m not even going to explain why you’re wrong. Just do what I say.” That they’re worth little enough to the community as to make them acceptable targets of public ridicule. If I had made the mistake, I would feel alienated by this.
That is one reason to be short. I also use brevity when I trust someone to understand a short message, because in that case a long message implies that they couldn’t understand the short message.
I hoped that the title would serve as the explanation, as it’s a reductio ad absurdum.
Downvoted because, while I agree with the content of the message [1], I object to the way it was delivered, which seems to me to imply that an acceptable reaction to those who make the mistake is, “That was so stupid, I’m not even going to explain why you’re wrong. Just do what I say.” That they’re worth little enough to the community as to be acceptable targets of ridicule. If I had been publicly admonished in this way, I would feel alienated.
[1] Frivolous use of the word “rationality” and its conjugates in post titles needs to be curtailed and prevented.
Edited to clarify. (Thanks, wedrifid!) Original text follows for context, but please disregard.
Downvoted for status signalling at the expense of newcomers who can reasonably be expected to not have read A Human’s Guide to Words yet, without at least linking to an accessible explanation for those who might misinterpret the joke.
People are remarkably good at inferring the context and intended message about social norms from the sparse information in a joke. Most people reading this title would be able to understand the sentiment and infer the approximate context that caused it.
Oh, wait. Is that just me?
Is the temporary amusement of some at the sniping of those others’ status worth potentially alienating them from the community, even if they number less than “most”? I do not want such “ridicule of the less socially experienced and/or quick to read sequences” norms to become prevalent here.
This wasn’t done. “My enemy is status signalling” is a moderately effective general purpose attack against positions one doesn’t like but doesn’t apply here (except in the Hansonian “Everything is Signalling” sense.)
And this isn’t relevant. In fact, familiarity with the sequences would be in some ways negatively useful in the context (given that it may give the assumption that such usages of Rational in titles was the endorsed norm.)
I don’t consider Vaniver an enemy, but will forgo brevity and taboo “status” to better show where I think I disagree with you:
I agree with the content of the message; that frivolous use of the word “rationality” and its conjugates in post titles needs to be curtailed and prevented.
I object to that message’s delivery, which seems to me to imply that an acceptable reaction to those who make that mistake are, “That was so stupid, I’m not even going to explain why you’re wrong. Just do what I say.” That they’re worth little enough to the community as to make them acceptable targets of public ridicule. If I had made the mistake, I would feel alienated by this.
You’re right. What I meant was closer to, “insufficiently exposed to those portions of the sequences that warn against improper uses of words as to have internalized a certain level of caution about how they communicate,” but I hadn’t recalled the confounding counterexamples you reference (as mentioned here) at the time.
I also notice that “misinterpreting the joke” has little to do with my actual objection and will amend the great-grandparent accordingly. Thank you for prompting me to clarify.
That is one reason to be short. I also use brevity when I trust someone to understand a short message, because in that case a long message implies that they couldn’t understand the short message.
I hoped that the title would serve as the explanation, as it’s a reductio ad absurdum.
The title of this post didn’t remind me of that of that sequence, but I still got the point.