I do think I’m doing something (in this post specifically) that might be accurately described as “dropping down below the actual level of rigor, to meet the people who are WAY below the level of rigor halfway, and try to encourage them to come up.” I’ve made an edit to the author’s note now that you’ve helped me notice this.
I think my overall model is something like “there are some folk who nominally support the norms but grant themselves exceptions too frequently in practice, and there are some folk who don’t actually care all that much about the norms, or who subordinate the norms to something else.”
(Where “the norms” is the stuff covered in the Sequences and SlateStarCodex and in the lists of things my brain does in the post above and so forth.)
And I think I’m arguing that we should encourage the former to better adhere to their own values, and support them in doing so, and maybe disincentivize or disinvite (some fraction or subset) of the latter.
re: “But without following a number of the linked comments, I can’t say exactly what you think went wrong,” I’m happy to detail an example or two, if anyone wants to say “hey, what’s wrong with this??” though part of why I didn’t detail a large number of them in the OP is that I don’t have the spoons for it.
I do think I’m doing something (in this post specifically) that might be accurately described as “dropping down below the actual level of rigor, to meet the people who are WAY below the level of rigor halfway, and try to encourage them to come up.” I’ve made an edit to the author’s note now that you’ve helped me notice this.
I think my overall model is something like “there are some folk who nominally support the norms but grant themselves exceptions too frequently in practice, and there are some folk who don’t actually care all that much about the norms, or who subordinate the norms to something else.”
(Where “the norms” is the stuff covered in the Sequences and SlateStarCodex and in the lists of things my brain does in the post above and so forth.)
And I think I’m arguing that we should encourage the former to better adhere to their own values, and support them in doing so, and maybe disincentivize or disinvite (some fraction or subset) of the latter.
re: “But without following a number of the linked comments, I can’t say exactly what you think went wrong,” I’m happy to detail an example or two, if anyone wants to say “hey, what’s wrong with this??” though part of why I didn’t detail a large number of them in the OP is that I don’t have the spoons for it.