[With mod hat on]: My model of the situation here is indeed that discussing REACH and other community institutions is harder than the average topic on LessWrong, and as such will have more unjustified upvotes/downvotes than usual. I don’t think the discussion so far has made me think that it’s that politicized though, and your direct reply to Ray is currently at 5 karma, which doesn’t ring any major alarm bells for me (in general, since a single strong downvote can move things relatively far into the negative, I would encourage people to have a bit more patience to let the karma system settle into its final equilibrium. Seeing your comment at −2 can really hurt, and how easy that can happen with our new karma system is indeed a problem that I would like to fix. I do think the benefits of weighting opinions by overall karma is worth it, and I don’t yet have a great alternative solution besides hoping that people develop more patience).
One meta-level up, I think that complaining about vote patterns is a dangerous pandora’s box that I would only want to open in exceptional circumstances, and I don’t think this is one of those situations. I recognize that we right now don’t have a great solution to pointing out patterns in voting that seem to highlight important aspects of the overall site culture, and this comment has made me more aware of the need for that, so for now I would encourage people to use the report button or Intercom to let the moderators know that you feel that a bunch of ideas are getting unjustifiably dismissed or hyped. We should soon have some better technology of dealing with this.
I do think that discussing this object-level issue is important, and that I would like LessWrong to be a place where that discussion can happen.
[With mod hat on]: My model of the situation here is indeed that discussing REACH and other community institutions is harder than the average topic on LessWrong, and as such will have more unjustified upvotes/downvotes than usual. I don’t think the discussion so far has made me think that it’s that politicized though, and your direct reply to Ray is currently at 5 karma, which doesn’t ring any major alarm bells for me (in general, since a single strong downvote can move things relatively far into the negative, I would encourage people to have a bit more patience to let the karma system settle into its final equilibrium. Seeing your comment at −2 can really hurt, and how easy that can happen with our new karma system is indeed a problem that I would like to fix. I do think the benefits of weighting opinions by overall karma is worth it, and I don’t yet have a great alternative solution besides hoping that people develop more patience).
One meta-level up, I think that complaining about vote patterns is a dangerous pandora’s box that I would only want to open in exceptional circumstances, and I don’t think this is one of those situations. I recognize that we right now don’t have a great solution to pointing out patterns in voting that seem to highlight important aspects of the overall site culture, and this comment has made me more aware of the need for that, so for now I would encourage people to use the report button or Intercom to let the moderators know that you feel that a bunch of ideas are getting unjustifiably dismissed or hyped. We should soon have some better technology of dealing with this.
I do think that discussing this object-level issue is important, and that I would like LessWrong to be a place where that discussion can happen.