The United States green card lottery is one of the best lotteries in the world. The payoff is huge (green cards would probably sell for six figures if they were on the market), the cost of entry is minimal ($0 and 30 minutes) and the odds of winning are low, but not astronomically low. If you meet the eligibility criterion and are even a little interested in moving to America, you should enter the lottery this October.
Well, it’s true that they aren’t quite the same units, but I was ignoring that. The cost is that the State Department pays attention and applies a penalty to the highly nontransparent visa process. These are qualitative claims. In principle they could be measured by outside observers. In fact, my best measurement is zero: they don’t pay attention nor penalize nonimmigrant visas.
Ah, okay. That is good to know, and could help people’s calculi. Thanks! I only retracted because if my initial understanding had been right, then the tradeoff could be calculated really unambiguously, whereas now it’s less clear that looking up the numbers and doing straight comparisons would be as much use.
This reminds me of another pretty decent lottery that some U.S. residents can take advantage of. Many major cities, including NYC, have affordable housing programs in brand new buildings. The cost to apply is $0, the payoff of is paying 20% − 25% of market rate of housing in that area. No, it’s not for poor people, there are other programs for that, the income requirements vary but in general is set to qualify the working residents of the city (maybe 50k − 95k).
Some of the most desirable and stunning locations in the city, where rents are 4k for 600 sq/f, can go for $700. Just Google the city you live in to see the specific requirements.
It is not a lottery as the green card lottery but if you are of European descent there is the chance you can apply for citizenship. Look out for Italian, Spanish, Hungarian and Irish ancestors in particular.
Edit: This scheme is ridiculously complicated in the EU and I know of no coherent source. If anyone is specifically interested in having the right of abode to work in the EU, contact me with a hint to family history and we can work something out. In the interest of the community I urge you to do this publicly.
The United States green card lottery is one of the best lotteries in the world. The payoff is huge (green cards would probably sell for six figures if they were on the market), the cost of entry is minimal ($0 and 30 minutes) and the odds of winning are low, but not astronomically low. If you meet the eligibility criterion and are even a little interested in moving to America, you should enter the lottery this October.
Having entered the lottery may make it harder to receive nonimmigrant visas in the future, however.
Since this cost and the payoff of the original lottery are in like units, could someone compute whether it’s still worth it to enter?
The cost is a completely qualitative claim, so, no, no one can do this computation.
Oh, whoops, misread as “immigrant visa” rather than “nonimmigrant visa”. Disregard.
Well, it’s true that they aren’t quite the same units, but I was ignoring that. The cost is that the State Department pays attention and applies a penalty to the highly nontransparent visa process. These are qualitative claims. In principle they could be measured by outside observers. In fact, my best measurement is zero: they don’t pay attention nor penalize nonimmigrant visas.
Ah, okay. That is good to know, and could help people’s calculi. Thanks! I only retracted because if my initial understanding had been right, then the tradeoff could be calculated really unambiguously, whereas now it’s less clear that looking up the numbers and doing straight comparisons would be as much use.
This reminds me of another pretty decent lottery that some U.S. residents can take advantage of. Many major cities, including NYC, have affordable housing programs in brand new buildings. The cost to apply is $0, the payoff of is paying 20% − 25% of market rate of housing in that area. No, it’s not for poor people, there are other programs for that, the income requirements vary but in general is set to qualify the working residents of the city (maybe 50k − 95k).
Some of the most desirable and stunning locations in the city, where rents are 4k for 600 sq/f, can go for $700. Just Google the city you live in to see the specific requirements.
I don’t think you can resell green cards so their open market price should be irrelevant.
I think that was just a way of saying how coveted the prize of this lottery is.
Moving somewhere that uses Fahrenheit degrees and sixteen-ounce pints doesn’t sound that great to me...
Anything remotely like this for EU countries?
It is not a lottery as the green card lottery but if you are of European descent there is the chance you can apply for citizenship. Look out for Italian, Spanish, Hungarian and Irish ancestors in particular.
Edit: This scheme is ridiculously complicated in the EU and I know of no coherent source. If anyone is specifically interested in having the right of abode to work in the EU, contact me with a hint to family history and we can work something out. In the interest of the community I urge you to do this publicly.