It may indeed be impossible to be a believer if you have very high levels of epistemic rationality, but it’s compatible with very high levels of instrumental rationality combined with moderately high levels of epistemic rationality.
It may indeed be impossible to be a believer if you have very high levels of epistemic rationality, but it’s compatible with very high levels of instrumental rationality combined with moderately high levels of epistemic rationality.
Agree. (Or at least I agree about the instrumental rationality compatibility. The “moderately high levels of epistemic rationality” would depend on the design of the metric.)
Edit: Other replies reminded me I may have been hasty in my agreement. Perhaps put the instrumental rationality compatible in with “depending on the standard of measurement”. Simply because that belief puts some hard limits on how instrumentally rational the individual can be. Unless the belief is so compartmentalised that they do things like still actively work to combat existential risk, at least as it applies to themselves or otherwise act as if they are taking such concerns into account in their decision making. I maintain my endorsement with your general sentiment.
very high levels of instrumental rationality combined with moderately high levels of instrumental rationality.
″ very high levels of instrumental rationality combined with moderately high levels of epistemic rationality”?
And in a world where other agents are the most important powers you deal with, social instrumental rationality is more relevant to evolutionary fitness and personal success than epistemic rationality. I worry that me and my kind are going the way of the dodo.
But I have this unfortunate habit of treating people as people, and not internal combustion engines to be optimized. Even more unfortunately, it’s not just a habit, it’s a preference. I have a strange compulsion towards honesty, and respecting the autonomy of others, and something of an aversion to people who don’t have that strange compulsion.
It may indeed be impossible to be a believer if you have very high levels of epistemic rationality, but it’s compatible with very high levels of instrumental rationality combined with moderately high levels of epistemic rationality.
Agree. (Or at least I agree about the instrumental rationality compatibility. The “moderately high levels of epistemic rationality” would depend on the design of the metric.)
Edit: Other replies reminded me I may have been hasty in my agreement. Perhaps put the instrumental rationality compatible in with “depending on the standard of measurement”. Simply because that belief puts some hard limits on how instrumentally rational the individual can be. Unless the belief is so compartmentalised that they do things like still actively work to combat existential risk, at least as it applies to themselves or otherwise act as if they are taking such concerns into account in their decision making. I maintain my endorsement with your general sentiment.
″ very high levels of instrumental rationality combined with moderately high levels of epistemic rationality”?
And in a world where other agents are the most important powers you deal with, social instrumental rationality is more relevant to evolutionary fitness and personal success than epistemic rationality. I worry that me and my kind are going the way of the dodo.
Yeah. Fixed, thanks.
Apply your epistemic rationality to the society and the agents around you as well—they are part of reality, too.
Yes, one can.
But I have this unfortunate habit of treating people as people, and not internal combustion engines to be optimized. Even more unfortunately, it’s not just a habit, it’s a preference. I have a strange compulsion towards honesty, and respecting the autonomy of others, and something of an aversion to people who don’t have that strange compulsion.
Read more carefully—I’ll bold the relevant part: “Apply your epistemic rationality to the society...”
And what does apply mean to you when it comes to epistemic rationality? Just to know, or to do something with that knowledge?
“Apply” means “learn” in this context.
Applying epistemic rationality means you try to make your map match the territory as well as you can.
What you do with this map is an entirely separate question (which is, largely, a function of your goals and instrumental rationality).