I’m surprised you linked to your old comment. For various reasons it looks like personal notes for writing a good post, not like something to inform or persuade. Consider redoing it.
Also, one suspects that for positions generally resembling the one I think you’re taking, there is an error of equivocation or similar non-exactness. For example, between boredom as an experience and boredom behavior, or regarding whether or not boredom being partly non-instrumental (by your admission) is enough to save Yudkowsky from problems you bring up that are caused by boredom’s instrumentality.
For such positions, there is a high standard of how clear the argument must be because it’s difficult for me to keep track otherwise.
Also, one suspects that for positions generally resembling the one I think you’re taking, there is an error of equivocation or similar non-exactness. For example, between boredom as an experience and boredom behavior [...]
The issue is whether creatures with purely instrumental boredom will create a “boring, worthless, valueless future”.
Whether they have subjective boredom or just behavioural boredom seems like an irrelevant side-issue to me.
I have purely-instrumental boredom (to the best of my ability, of course).
Suggesting that purely-instrumental boredom will create a “boring, worthless, valueless future” is just a baseless criticism.
Yudkowsky’s idea that such creatures will explore first and then get on with tedious exploiting makes little sense. For example, “exploring” the task of expanding through the galaxy (which is a universal instrumental value) is inevitably going to take a very long time—due to the scale of the experiments required.
I’m surprised you linked to your old comment. For various reasons it looks like personal notes for writing a good post, not like something to inform or persuade. Consider redoing it.
Also, one suspects that for positions generally resembling the one I think you’re taking, there is an error of equivocation or similar non-exactness. For example, between boredom as an experience and boredom behavior, or regarding whether or not boredom being partly non-instrumental (by your admission) is enough to save Yudkowsky from problems you bring up that are caused by boredom’s instrumentality.
For such positions, there is a high standard of how clear the argument must be because it’s difficult for me to keep track otherwise.
The issue is whether creatures with purely instrumental boredom will create a “boring, worthless, valueless future”.
Whether they have subjective boredom or just behavioural boredom seems like an irrelevant side-issue to me.
I have purely-instrumental boredom (to the best of my ability, of course).
Suggesting that purely-instrumental boredom will create a “boring, worthless, valueless future” is just a baseless criticism.
Yudkowsky’s idea that such creatures will explore first and then get on with tedious exploiting makes little sense. For example, “exploring” the task of expanding through the galaxy (which is a universal instrumental value) is inevitably going to take a very long time—due to the scale of the experiments required.