Without endorsing any other points (not because I agree or disagree, simply because I haven’t done my own research on them), I’d like to +1 the sentiment of, “Let us not tolerate status jabs/mocking others.”
I feel that the ideal rationalist writing will as a side effect avoid mocking, so it always feels a little out of place and unwarranted to me.
“I never had the patience to argue with these commenters and I’m going to start blocking them for sheer tediousness. Those celibate men who declare themselves beyond redemption deserve their safe spaces,”
“I don’t have a chart on this one, but I get dozens of replies from men complaining about the impossibility of dating and here’s the brutal truth I learned: the most important variable for dating success is not height or income or extraversion. It’s not being a whiny little bitch.”
These are not quotes from the OP but from other writing by the author. This is irrelevant to the appropriateness of the OP on LW. The first quote is not even mocking.
OP is usually used to note the original poster and not the original post, and the first quote is taken from one of the links in this post and is absolutely a status jab, he assumes his critic is a celibate (even though the quoted comment doesn’t imply anything like that) and if you don’t parse “they deserve their safe spaces” as a status jab/mockery I think you’re not reading the social subtext correctly here—but I’m not sure how to communicate this in a manner you will find acceptable.
I don’t parse “they deserve their safe spaces” as mockery, but as more or less literal/sincere. Jacob has been consistently sympathetic to romanceless men in his writing, only frustrated with the “colored pill” ideologies. Moreover, the comment he is replying to does read like mockery: “the best he could secure is a poly marriage”, with scare quotes around “poly marriage”, as if that’s inferior to other kinds of marriage.
The serious answer would be: Incel = low status, implying that someone is an incel and deserves to be stuck in his toxic safe space is a mockery or at least a status jab, the fact you ignored the fact I wrote status jab/mockery and insisted only on mockery and only in the context of this specific post hints as motivated reasoning (Choosing to ignore the bigger picture and artificially limiting the limits of the discussion to minimize the attack surface without any good reason).
The mocking answer would be: These autistic rationalists can’t even sense obvious mockery and deserve to be ignored by normal people
As a note, I’ve spoken many times about the importance of having empathy for romanceless men because they’re a common punching bag and have written about incel culture specifically. The fact that the absolute worst and most aggravating commenters on my blog identify as incels doesn’t make me anti-incel, it just makes me anti those commenters.
Without endorsing any other points (not because I agree or disagree, simply because I haven’t done my own research on them), I’d like to +1 the sentiment of, “Let us not tolerate status jabs/mocking others.”
I feel that the ideal rationalist writing will as a side effect avoid mocking, so it always feels a little out of place and unwarranted to me.
Where is the OP mocking anyone?
“I never had the patience to argue with these commenters and I’m going to start blocking them for sheer tediousness. Those celibate men who declare themselves beyond redemption deserve their safe spaces,”
https://putanumonit.com/2021/05/30/easily-top-20/
“I don’t have a chart on this one, but I get dozens of replies from men complaining about the impossibility of dating and here’s the brutal truth I learned: the most important variable for dating success is not height or income or extraversion. It’s not being a whiny little bitch.”
https://twitter.com/yashkaf/status/1461416614939742216
These are not quotes from the OP but from other writing by the author. This is irrelevant to the appropriateness of the OP on LW. The first quote is not even mocking.
OP is usually used to note the original poster and not the original post, and the first quote is taken from one of the links in this post and is absolutely a status jab, he assumes his critic is a celibate (even though the quoted comment doesn’t imply anything like that) and if you don’t parse “they deserve their safe spaces” as a status jab/mockery I think you’re not reading the social subtext correctly here—but I’m not sure how to communicate this in a manner you will find acceptable.
I don’t parse “they deserve their safe spaces” as mockery, but as more or less literal/sincere. Jacob has been consistently sympathetic to romanceless men in his writing, only frustrated with the “colored pill” ideologies. Moreover, the comment he is replying to does read like mockery: “the best he could secure is a poly marriage”, with scare quotes around “poly marriage”, as if that’s inferior to other kinds of marriage.
The serious answer would be:
Incel = low status, implying that someone is an incel and deserves to be stuck in his toxic safe space is a mockery or at least a status jab, the fact you ignored the fact I wrote status jab/mockery and insisted only on mockery and only in the context of this specific post hints as motivated reasoning (Choosing to ignore the bigger picture and artificially limiting the limits of the discussion to minimize the attack surface without any good reason).
The mocking answer would be:
These autistic rationalists can’t even sense obvious mockery and deserve to be ignored by normal people
As a note, I’ve spoken many times about the importance of having empathy for romanceless men because they’re a common punching bag and have written about incel culture specifically. The fact that the absolute worst and most aggravating commenters on my blog identify as incels doesn’t make me anti-incel, it just makes me anti those commenters.