“Your argument is fallacious because X is not a central category member. And it’s not a central category member because…I say so?”
In my view, part of what makes the non-central argument a fallacy is the ad hoc use of the ‘overly restrictive definition’.
Whoever argues that “MLK is a criminal” with the intent of instilling the negative connotation of the term is unlikely to apply the same standard everywhere.
One in that case could reply that anyone who ever opposed any non-democratic regime and was found guilty of sedition/instigation/etc.… is/was also a criminal.
If the proponent of the argument disagrees, we fall into a contradiction. If in favour of the extended use, the original concept—criminal—is stripped off its stereotypical baggage.
If the problem is ad hoc application, then it doesn’t matter if the archetype is “central” or not, no?
My objection to “MLK is a criminal” is that it has to make too many unannounced jumps to get to its conclusion. The principle I can glean from this type of denouncement is something along the lines of “[Criminals] should not be honored by statutes” but whether or not this is a good argument depends entirely on what definition of [criminal] we’re using. If we adopt a barebones definition of the word, we’d end up with something like “[anyone who has ever broken any law] should not be honored by statues” which immediately is exposed as unconvincing, which is why they have to hide behind the connotation. That’s why I argue the problem isn’t whether it’s “central” but rather using labels as reasoning shortcuts.
Upvoted for the finalmost sentence of your post; thank you so much.
Whoever argues that “MLK is a criminal” with the intent of instilling the negative connotation of the term is unlikely to apply the same standard everywhere.
This is an indictment of the human species, if this purported “unlikelihood” is true. Maybe you should not underestimate the likelihood that your interlocutors have a serious deep resentment of unlawful behavior, however alien this might be to you. Maybe part of their fundamental self-narrative includes the unforgivable harms consistently caused to them by crimes which were superficially dismissed as mild by others. They may think “If this is a mild (read: non-central) crime, I don’t want to know what the serious (read: central) ones are.” Maybe they feel they have no choice but to become a total “I’ll end it forever if it’s the last thing I do”-level enemy with criminality in all forms, as a precaution.
If humanity is willing to coexist with anything, well, imagine the worst possible thing. Imagine something worse than that. Worse in ways you didn’t even realize things could be worse by. Recursive worseness. Explosive worseness via combination of worseness-multipliers. Worseness-multipliers that might seem like normally good things if they weren’t being used by your imagination for the explicit purpose of making things worse. (Like hope, for example.) That is a thing which counts as a member of the “anything” set which humanity would be willing to coexist with, in the world where humanity would coexist with anything.
Unconditional coexistence is not safe for humans. To refuse coexistence with something that is evil in letter and spirit, on the outside and on the inside, you must have a clear sense of that thing no matter what are the stereotypes — the consensus reality — about its symbolic representation.
In my view, part of what makes the non-central argument a fallacy is the ad hoc use of the ‘overly restrictive definition’.
Whoever argues that “MLK is a criminal” with the intent of instilling the negative connotation of the term is unlikely to apply the same standard everywhere.
One in that case could reply that anyone who ever opposed any non-democratic regime and was found guilty of sedition/instigation/etc.… is/was also a criminal.
If the proponent of the argument disagrees, we fall into a contradiction. If in favour of the extended use, the original concept—criminal—is stripped off its stereotypical baggage.
If the problem is ad hoc application, then it doesn’t matter if the archetype is “central” or not, no?
My objection to “MLK is a criminal” is that it has to make too many unannounced jumps to get to its conclusion. The principle I can glean from this type of denouncement is something along the lines of “[Criminals] should not be honored by statutes” but whether or not this is a good argument depends entirely on what definition of [criminal] we’re using. If we adopt a barebones definition of the word, we’d end up with something like “[anyone who has ever broken any law] should not be honored by statues” which immediately is exposed as unconvincing, which is why they have to hide behind the connotation. That’s why I argue the problem isn’t whether it’s “central” but rather using labels as reasoning shortcuts.
Upvoted for the finalmost sentence of your post; thank you so much.
This is an indictment of the human species, if this purported “unlikelihood” is true. Maybe you should not underestimate the likelihood that your interlocutors have a serious deep resentment of unlawful behavior, however alien this might be to you. Maybe part of their fundamental self-narrative includes the unforgivable harms consistently caused to them by crimes which were superficially dismissed as mild by others. They may think “If this is a mild (read: non-central) crime, I don’t want to know what the serious (read: central) ones are.” Maybe they feel they have no choice but to become a total “I’ll end it forever if it’s the last thing I do”-level enemy with criminality in all forms, as a precaution.
If humanity is willing to coexist with anything, well, imagine the worst possible thing. Imagine something worse than that. Worse in ways you didn’t even realize things could be worse by. Recursive worseness. Explosive worseness via combination of worseness-multipliers. Worseness-multipliers that might seem like normally good things if they weren’t being used by your imagination for the explicit purpose of making things worse. (Like hope, for example.) That is a thing which counts as a member of the “anything” set which humanity would be willing to coexist with, in the world where humanity would coexist with anything.
Unconditional coexistence is not safe for humans. To refuse coexistence with something that is evil in letter and spirit, on the outside and on the inside, you must have a clear sense of that thing no matter what are the stereotypes — the consensus reality — about its symbolic representation.