I am not terribly interested in distinguishing the shades of brown or aroma nuances. To answer your question, yes, I do believe you wrote a typical Lifehack article of the typical degree of shittiness. In fact, I think your mentioned on LW your struggles in producting something sufficiently shitty for Lifehack to accept and, clearly, you have succeeded in achieving the necessary level.
As to the bet, please specify what is a “neutral reasonable” observer and how do you define “quality” in this context. Also, do I take it you are offering 1:1 odds? That implies you believe the probability you will lose is just under 50%, y’know...
That implies you believe the probability you will lose is just under 50%
Only if $1000 is an insignificant fraction of Gleb’s wealth, or his utility-from-dollars function doesn’t show the sort of decreasing marginal returns most people’s do.
$1000 is not an insignificant portion of my wealth, as gjm notes. I certainly do not want to lose it.
We can take 10 LessWrongers who are not friends with you or I and have not participated in this thread and do not know about this debate as neutral observers. Should be relatively easy to gather through posting on the open thread or elsewhere.
We can have gjm or another external observer recruit people just in case one of us doing it might bias the results.
Sorry, I don’t enjoy gambling. I am still curious about “quality” which you say your article has and the typical Lifehacker swill doesn’t. How do you define that “quality”?
As an example this article, as do others, cites links to and describes studies, gives advice that is informed by research, and conveys frames of thinking likely to lead to positive outcomes besides building willpower, such as self-forgiveness, commitment, goal setting, etc.
As I said, I’m not interested in gambling. Your bet, from my point of view, is on whether a random selection of people will find one piece of shit to be slightly better or slightly worse than another piece of shit. I am not particularly interested in shades of brown, this establishes no objective facts, and will not change my position. So why bother?
Ah, alright, thanks for clarifying. So it sounds like you acknowledge that there are different shades. Now, how do you cross the inference gap from people who like the darkest shade into lighter shades? That’s the project of raising the sanity waterline.
You seem to have made two contradicting statements, or maybe we’re miscommunicating.
1) Do you believe that raising the sanity waterline of those in the murk—those who like the dark shade because of their current circumstances and knowledge, but are capable of learning and improving—is still raising the sanity waterline?
2) If you believe it is still raising the sanity waterline, how do you raise their sanity waterline if you do not produce slightly less shitty content intentionally in order to cross the inference gap?
Do you believe that raising the sanity waterline of those in the murk
I don’t think you can raise their sanity waterline by writing slightly lighter-shade articles on Lifehacker and such. I think you’re deluding yourself.
I am not terribly interested in distinguishing the shades of brown or aroma nuances. To answer your question, yes, I do believe you wrote a typical Lifehack article of the typical degree of shittiness. In fact, I think your mentioned on LW your struggles in producting something sufficiently shitty for Lifehack to accept and, clearly, you have succeeded in achieving the necessary level.
As to the bet, please specify what is a “neutral reasonable” observer and how do you define “quality” in this context. Also, do I take it you are offering 1:1 odds? That implies you believe the probability you will lose is just under 50%, y’know...
Only if $1000 is an insignificant fraction of Gleb’s wealth, or his utility-from-dollars function doesn’t show the sort of decreasing marginal returns most people’s do.
Indeed, $1000 is a quite significant portion of my wealth.
$1000 is not an insignificant portion of my wealth, as gjm notes. I certainly do not want to lose it.
We can take 10 LessWrongers who are not friends with you or I and have not participated in this thread and do not know about this debate as neutral observers. Should be relatively easy to gather through posting on the open thread or elsewhere.
We can have gjm or another external observer recruit people just in case one of us doing it might bias the results.
So, going through with it?
Sorry, I don’t enjoy gambling. I am still curious about “quality” which you say your article has and the typical Lifehacker swill doesn’t. How do you define that “quality”?
As an example this article, as do others, cites links to and describes studies, gives advice that is informed by research, and conveys frames of thinking likely to lead to positive outcomes besides building willpower, such as self-forgiveness, commitment, goal setting, etc.
And I imagine that based on your response, you take your words back. Thanks!
I am sorry to disappoint you. I do not.
Well, what kind of odds would you give me to take the bet?
As I said, I’m not interested in gambling. Your bet, from my point of view, is on whether a random selection of people will find one piece of shit to be slightly better or slightly worse than another piece of shit. I am not particularly interested in shades of brown, this establishes no objective facts, and will not change my position. So why bother?
Four out of five dentists recommend… X-)
Ah, alright, thanks for clarifying. So it sounds like you acknowledge that there are different shades. Now, how do you cross the inference gap from people who like the darkest shade into lighter shades? That’s the project of raising the sanity waterline.
I am not interested in crossing the inference gap to people who like the darkest shade. They can have it.
I don’t think that raising the sanity waterline involves producting shit, even of particular colours.
You seem to have made two contradicting statements, or maybe we’re miscommunicating.
1) Do you believe that raising the sanity waterline of those in the murk—those who like the dark shade because of their current circumstances and knowledge, but are capable of learning and improving—is still raising the sanity waterline?
2) If you believe it is still raising the sanity waterline, how do you raise their sanity waterline if you do not produce slightly less shitty content intentionally in order to cross the inference gap?
I don’t think you can raise their sanity waterline by writing slightly lighter-shade articles on Lifehacker and such. I think you’re deluding yourself.
Ok, I will agree to disagree on this one.