As far as I can see, you need the simulation code to literally keep track of will humans notice this
Not necessarily—when you build a particle accelerator you’re setting up lots of matter to depend on the exact details of small amounts of matter, which might be detectable on a much more automatic level. But in any case, most plausible simulators have AGI-grade code anyway.
Not necessarily—when you build a particle accelerator you’re setting up lots of matter to depend on the exact details of small amounts of matter, which might be detectable on a much more automatic level.
Ok; my point was that, due to butterfly effects, it seems likely that this is also true for the weather or some other natural process, but if there is a relatively simple way to calculate a well-calibrated probability distribution for whether any particular subatomic interaction will influence large amounts of matter, that should probably do the trick. (This works whether or not this distribution can actually detect the particular interactions that will influence the weather, as long as it can reliably detect the particle accelerator ones.)
But in any case, most plausible simulators have AGI-grade code anyway.
Fair enough, I think. Also I just noticed that you actually said “trivial for a SI”, which negates my terminological squabble—argh, sorry. … OK, comment retracted.
my point was that, due to butterfly effects, it seems likely that this is also true for the weather or some other natural process
Hm. True. I still feel like there ought to be some simple sense in which butterfly effects don’t render a well-calibrated statistical distribution for the weather poorly calibrated, or something along those lines—maybe, butterfly effects don’t correlate with utility in weather, or some other sense of low information value—but that does amp up the intelligence level required.
I later said “No SI required” so your retraction may be premature. :)
Not necessarily—when you build a particle accelerator you’re setting up lots of matter to depend on the exact details of small amounts of matter, which might be detectable on a much more automatic level. But in any case, most plausible simulators have AGI-grade code anyway.
Ok; my point was that, due to butterfly effects, it seems likely that this is also true for the weather or some other natural process, but if there is a relatively simple way to calculate a well-calibrated probability distribution for whether any particular subatomic interaction will influence large amounts of matter, that should probably do the trick. (This works whether or not this distribution can actually detect the particular interactions that will influence the weather, as long as it can reliably detect the particle accelerator ones.)
Fair enough, I think. Also I just noticed that you actually said “trivial for a SI”, which negates my terminological squabble—argh, sorry. … OK, comment retracted.
Hm. True. I still feel like there ought to be some simple sense in which butterfly effects don’t render a well-calibrated statistical distribution for the weather poorly calibrated, or something along those lines—maybe, butterfly effects don’t correlate with utility in weather, or some other sense of low information value—but that does amp up the intelligence level required.
I later said “No SI required” so your retraction may be premature. :)
And it was so.