I am male. I have high testosterone. I love competing and winning. I am ambitious and driven. I like to make a lot of money. I make a lot of money. I prefer the sidekick role.
If someone asks me “King or Prince?” I will respond with Prince every time. Hey, you can still be royalty without the weight of the world on your shoulders. I would still be a hard working Prince, too. If some asks me “Candidate or Campaign Manager?” I’ll take Campaign Manager, thank you. If someone asks me “President or Chief of Staff?” well, you know the answer by now.
The more money I make and the more wisdom and experience I acquire, the more people naturally turn to me to lead. And I do it when necessary. I’m even pretty good at it. But, I don’t love it. I don’t require it. I don’t see myself as growing more in that direction.
Upvoting is not sufficient given the very difference perspectives in the comments here.
I read the above article and nodded along the way thinking ‘this is insightful and adds a great context to discuss and think about many industrious relationships’ never once did gender cross my mind. I was floored to see it a major item in the comments.
I am male. I have high testosterone. I love competing and winning. I am ambitious and driven. I like to make a lot of money. I make a lot of money. I prefer the sidekick role.
And what is your take on the A-Teamist Face-Planner team structure? Do you see it as similar to the Hero-Sidekick structure as described by Swimmer963? How about the 007-Q relationship?
There are too many fictional examples in this discussion, any non-anecdotal real life case studies?
Developing a full-blown classification of relationship types here seems to be a tad excessive :-) Let me just point out that the leader-peon type (see e.g. this) is not quite the same thing as the hero-sidekick type.
In real life I, for example, have zero desire to be either a hero or a sidekick. Accordingly, none of my relationships, either work or personal, can be described as hero-sidekick ones.
I thought of a little more context to add to this. I’ve started several businesses in my life, but I’ve never started a business completely on my own. I’ve always had partners. I’ve always looked for some other person that feels passionately about leading the business. I negotiate well for my share of the new enterprise, so I’m still involved in the big decisions. However, I would never go out and start something all by myself and then just look to gather my team by hiring them on as employees. That would put me just too starkly in the hero role.
I am male. I have high testosterone. I love competing and winning. I am ambitious and driven. I like to make a lot of money. I make a lot of money. I prefer the sidekick role.
If someone asks me “King or Prince?” I will respond with Prince every time. Hey, you can still be royalty without the weight of the world on your shoulders. I would still be a hard working Prince, too. If some asks me “Candidate or Campaign Manager?” I’ll take Campaign Manager, thank you. If someone asks me “President or Chief of Staff?” well, you know the answer by now.
The more money I make and the more wisdom and experience I acquire, the more people naturally turn to me to lead. And I do it when necessary. I’m even pretty good at it. But, I don’t love it. I don’t require it. I don’t see myself as growing more in that direction.
Upvoting is not sufficient given the very difference perspectives in the comments here.
I read the above article and nodded along the way thinking ‘this is insightful and adds a great context to discuss and think about many industrious relationships’ never once did gender cross my mind. I was floored to see it a major item in the comments.
Ditto. I’ve never identified as subservient, but my entire career I’ve found leaders to work for whose skill set I could compliment. I saw this as an issue of too many cooks ruin the stew and too many chiefs, not enough indians.
To sum this up, I think the Sidekick role is a matter of effective team building and is as far from gender as anything else in the world.
Any links to discussions on this item elsewhere? As some rationalist said, two rationalists with the same info can’t help but agree.
...given some assumptions about the mathematical structure of argument that probably don’t hold for humans, rationalist or otherwise.
Aumann is a remarkable result in many ways, but it’s not one that neatly lends itself to social engineering.
I think that the hero-sidekick framework is just wrong for most kinds of relationships.
And what is your take on the A-Teamist Face-Planner team structure? Do you see it as similar to the Hero-Sidekick structure as described by Swimmer963? How about the 007-Q relationship?
There are too many fictional examples in this discussion, any non-anecdotal real life case studies?
Developing a full-blown classification of relationship types here seems to be a tad excessive :-) Let me just point out that the leader-peon type (see e.g. this) is not quite the same thing as the hero-sidekick type.
In real life I, for example, have zero desire to be either a hero or a sidekick. Accordingly, none of my relationships, either work or personal, can be described as hero-sidekick ones.
I thought of a little more context to add to this. I’ve started several businesses in my life, but I’ve never started a business completely on my own. I’ve always had partners. I’ve always looked for some other person that feels passionately about leading the business. I negotiate well for my share of the new enterprise, so I’m still involved in the big decisions. However, I would never go out and start something all by myself and then just look to gather my team by hiring them on as employees. That would put me just too starkly in the hero role.