I know quite a few very bright people who basically buy the conspiracy angle. I can speak to this a little bit.
A common theme I hear in many of these theories is that people have (supposedly) been getting trained for compliance. It’s not about getting overpowered as much as hacked. The “slowly boiling a frog” metaphor shows up often enough to be notable.
The suggestion is something like… all these bigwigs pulling the strings underestimated some combo of (a) tech that gets the word out, (b) people’s ability to recognize patterns like this, and (c) people’s willingness to take a stand even at great personal cost.
So it’s not that refusing the vaccine is mysteriously possible. It’s that compliance with the vaccine, and support of vaccine mandates and passports, is part of totalitarian creep.
The question of why people who are smart enough to orchestrate something on this scale would be dumb enough to overlook these factors isn’t really raised. It’s often brushed aside with a tone along the lines of “Whatever. We see what they’re doing. We’re going to stand up against tyranny!”
It’s worth noting that such circles have a lot more cases of people with adverse reactions to both the vaccine and the bureaucracy surrounding it than what I hear amongst rationalists. Months of crippling pain or inability to walk, kids having serious heart conditions, etc. Not minor issues. And without really trying to listen in for them I’ve heard maybe a few dozen cases of people being turned away from reporting these issues because “the vaccines are safe & effective” and therefore these problems can’t possibly come from the vaccines donchyaknow. And yet at the same time, when these people go to the hospital because their reaction gets too severe, the staff often acknowledge that yep, this is just a thing with these vaccines.
So it doesn’t take too many stories like this to affirm that official authorities are just not to be trusted on this. Whatever is truly motivating them sure isn’t truth and transparency. Often the narrative spun in these circles is that the core motive is profit, mostly for the vaccine companies. Hence suppression of ivermectin, for instance.
(Some folk like those at Rebel Wisdom have pointed out that the financial incentives go both ways. If ivermectin were a miracle drug, insurance companies would be all over that. So why don’t the incentives in that direction dominate? I basically don’t hear this point discussed at all in these circles.)
Occasionally some folk grant that maybe there’s no conspiracy but more like an opportunistic power grab. I tend to lean in this direction myself: Moloch-like “conspiracy” by egregores (what my family has long called “conspiracy by stupidity”) followed with a chaser of Rao-sociopaths. Although most folk who go in this kind of direction that I’ve heard seem to assume that “the elite” are awfully coordinated even in their opportunism. Usually with Bill Gates and/or Fauci in cahoots with the vaccine companies and “big tech” and a few other key players. I don’t hear too many recognizing the multipolar nature of the Egregoric Wars. I guess it’s easier to visualize corrupt villains than hyperobjects.
But even so, the conclusion is usually the same: “Going along with it and not speaking up against it is being complicit in something Bad™.” Insert allusions to early Nazi popularity prior to WWII. And it’s possible to resist because the goal isn’t actually to force everyone to get vaccinated: it’s to make everyone compliant.
I know quite a few very bright people who basically buy the conspiracy angle. I can speak to this a little bit.
A common theme I hear in many of these theories is that people have (supposedly) been getting trained for compliance. It’s not about getting overpowered as much as hacked. The “slowly boiling a frog” metaphor shows up often enough to be notable.
The suggestion is something like… all these bigwigs pulling the strings underestimated some combo of (a) tech that gets the word out, (b) people’s ability to recognize patterns like this, and (c) people’s willingness to take a stand even at great personal cost.
So it’s not that refusing the vaccine is mysteriously possible. It’s that compliance with the vaccine, and support of vaccine mandates and passports, is part of totalitarian creep.
The question of why people who are smart enough to orchestrate something on this scale would be dumb enough to overlook these factors isn’t really raised. It’s often brushed aside with a tone along the lines of “Whatever. We see what they’re doing. We’re going to stand up against tyranny!”
It’s worth noting that such circles have a lot more cases of people with adverse reactions to both the vaccine and the bureaucracy surrounding it than what I hear amongst rationalists. Months of crippling pain or inability to walk, kids having serious heart conditions, etc. Not minor issues. And without really trying to listen in for them I’ve heard maybe a few dozen cases of people being turned away from reporting these issues because “the vaccines are safe & effective” and therefore these problems can’t possibly come from the vaccines donchyaknow. And yet at the same time, when these people go to the hospital because their reaction gets too severe, the staff often acknowledge that yep, this is just a thing with these vaccines.
So it doesn’t take too many stories like this to affirm that official authorities are just not to be trusted on this. Whatever is truly motivating them sure isn’t truth and transparency. Often the narrative spun in these circles is that the core motive is profit, mostly for the vaccine companies. Hence suppression of ivermectin, for instance.
(Some folk like those at Rebel Wisdom have pointed out that the financial incentives go both ways. If ivermectin were a miracle drug, insurance companies would be all over that. So why don’t the incentives in that direction dominate? I basically don’t hear this point discussed at all in these circles.)
Occasionally some folk grant that maybe there’s no conspiracy but more like an opportunistic power grab. I tend to lean in this direction myself: Moloch-like “conspiracy” by egregores (what my family has long called “conspiracy by stupidity”) followed with a chaser of Rao-sociopaths. Although most folk who go in this kind of direction that I’ve heard seem to assume that “the elite” are awfully coordinated even in their opportunism. Usually with Bill Gates and/or Fauci in cahoots with the vaccine companies and “big tech” and a few other key players. I don’t hear too many recognizing the multipolar nature of the Egregoric Wars. I guess it’s easier to visualize corrupt villains than hyperobjects.
But even so, the conclusion is usually the same: “Going along with it and not speaking up against it is being complicit in something Bad™.” Insert allusions to early Nazi popularity prior to WWII. And it’s possible to resist because the goal isn’t actually to force everyone to get vaccinated: it’s to make everyone compliant.