What I’m curious about is why Eli Sennesh thinks that a value system like my own is irrational or corrupted.
(nods) Well, I can’t speak for Eli, but judging from what they’ve written I conclude that you and Eli don’t even agree on what a hypothetical wireheader’s values are. You would say that a wireheader’s values are necessarily to wirehead, since they evidently like wireheading… if they didn’t, they would stop. I suspect Eli would say that a wireheader’s values aren’t necessarily to wirehead, since they might not want to wirehead.
I just think that [..] when they differ, wanting should be beaten into agreeing with liking.
Right, I understand; we’ve had this discussion before. I disagree with you entirely, as I value some of the things I want. But discussing value differences rarely gets anywhere, so I’m happy to leave that there.
(nods) Well, I can’t speak for Eli, but judging from what they’ve written I conclude that you and Eli don’t even agree on what a hypothetical wireheader’s values are. You would say that a wireheader’s values are necessarily to wirehead, since they evidently like wireheading… if they didn’t, they would stop. I suspect Eli would say that a wireheader’s values aren’t necessarily to wirehead, since they might not want to wirehead.
Right, I understand; we’ve had this discussion before. I disagree with you entirely, as I value some of the things I want. But discussing value differences rarely gets anywhere, so I’m happy to leave that there.