“The same” would assumt that hypnosis is always done in the same state. That’s not true.
I have plenty of experiences where I myself don’t remember certain parts of a hypnosis session but no suggestions where given not to remember that part.
There are plenty hypnotherapist who think that you don’t need a state a state where everything is forgotten to give successful suggestions. The client not remembering everything can produce problems with getting the client feel that hypnosis is working for them.
The hypnotic induction is just a Ritual designed to convince the client that they can be “hypnotized” in a way that matches their preconceptions. After the first session, it’s much more efficient to use an instant reinduction trigger or suggestions like “I can hypnotize you in hundreds of ways impossible to resist” or “all my suggestion will work easily, automatically, whether or not you think you’re hypnotized, in exactly the way that benefits you most”.
As for amnesia, stage techniques are awesome. It’s really hard to doubt you’ve been hypnotized when you count your 11 fingers, can’t get up from the chair or watch your arm grow to twice the size.
The hypnotic induction is just a Ritual designed to convince the client that they can be “hypnotized” in a way that matches their preconceptions.
’With that definition you define hypnosis in a way where hypnosis has nothing to do with trance. It’s certainly possible to give another person suggestions that do work without having the person in a somnambulistic state.
That no useful definition if you want to talk about how certain trance states come with amnesia.
I had multiple times the experience of creating a trance state in someone that causes amnesia without giving suggestions for amnesia and without the person thinking they were supposed to have amnesia.
As for amnesia, stage techniques are awesome. It’s really hard to doubt you’ve been hypnotized when you count your 11 fingers, can’t get up from the chair or watch your arm grow to twice the size.
Yes, you can do those things. It’s commonly called convincers. On the other hand feats like counting 11 fingers are not phenomena that will succeed for every subject the first time.
“The same” would assumt that hypnosis is always done in the same state. That’s not true. I have plenty of experiences where I myself don’t remember certain parts of a hypnosis session but no suggestions where given not to remember that part.
There are plenty hypnotherapist who think that you don’t need a state a state where everything is forgotten to give successful suggestions. The client not remembering everything can produce problems with getting the client feel that hypnosis is working for them.
The hypnotic induction is just a Ritual designed to convince the client that they can be “hypnotized” in a way that matches their preconceptions. After the first session, it’s much more efficient to use an instant reinduction trigger or suggestions like “I can hypnotize you in hundreds of ways impossible to resist” or “all my suggestion will work easily, automatically, whether or not you think you’re hypnotized, in exactly the way that benefits you most”.
As for amnesia, stage techniques are awesome. It’s really hard to doubt you’ve been hypnotized when you count your 11 fingers, can’t get up from the chair or watch your arm grow to twice the size.
’With that definition you define hypnosis in a way where hypnosis has nothing to do with trance. It’s certainly possible to give another person suggestions that do work without having the person in a somnambulistic state. That no useful definition if you want to talk about how certain trance states come with amnesia.
I had multiple times the experience of creating a trance state in someone that causes amnesia without giving suggestions for amnesia and without the person thinking they were supposed to have amnesia.
Yes, you can do those things. It’s commonly called convincers. On the other hand feats like counting 11 fingers are not phenomena that will succeed for every subject the first time.