Because I’m familiar with standard advice given to women, and I never see a taboo against “giving in” to continued unwanted advanced “just because you decide you like the guy now”.
That’s evidence that such a social taboo is not very common, but there could easily be women doing it on their own accord and just not talking about it much. “Don’t reward guys for keeping to bother you” seems obvious and unremarkable enough to follow without explicitly mentioning it all the time.
“Don’t reward guys for keeping to bother you” seems obvious and unremarkable enough to follow without explicitly mentioning it all the time.
Without wanting to cite fictional evidence I think it’s worth noting that guys being rewarded for continuing to bother an initially uninterested woman is a very common and long-lived trope in fiction.
Yes, and that’s in fiction that is most popular with women. To borrow the form of a Penny Arcade strip, it’s like this:
Jane: Geez, we go through all this effort to raise awareness about respect for women, and men never seem to get the message! Why is that? Lisa: (with a guilty look) It’s a goddamn … it’s a goddamn mystery!
Earlier, at a focus group session Lisa is participating in...
Focus group director: So, what kinds of behaviors do you women like to see in the male characters in the novels you read? Lisa and the rest of the group: Ignoring the woman’s rejections!!!
That wasn’t supposed to be an argument for such behavior being common (I’d guess it’s not particulary), just for the possibility of such behavior existing without being much talked about.
What is your evidence that there are no such women?
Because I’m familiar with standard advice given to women, and I never see a taboo against “giving in” to continued unwanted advanced “just because you decide you like the guy now”.
That’s evidence that such a social taboo is not very common, but there could easily be women doing it on their own accord and just not talking about it much. “Don’t reward guys for keeping to bother you” seems obvious and unremarkable enough to follow without explicitly mentioning it all the time.
Without wanting to cite fictional evidence I think it’s worth noting that guys being rewarded for continuing to bother an initially uninterested woman is a very common and long-lived trope in fiction.
Yes, and that’s in fiction that is most popular with women. To borrow the form of a Penny Arcade strip, it’s like this:
Jane: Geez, we go through all this effort to raise awareness about respect for women, and men never seem to get the message! Why is that?
Lisa: (with a guilty look) It’s a goddamn … it’s a goddamn mystery!
Earlier, at a focus group session Lisa is participating in...
Focus group director: So, what kinds of behaviors do you women like to see in the male characters in the novels you read?
Lisa and the rest of the group: Ignoring the woman’s rejections!!!
I suspect that women are very underrepresented among people who:
a) frame dating someone a “reward” for them, and
b) carefully monitor the game-theoretic implications of their actions
Are you female? Do you think you have sufficient understanding of what empathic inferences you can make from your mind to theirs?
That wasn’t supposed to be an argument for such behavior being common (I’d guess it’s not particulary), just for the possibility of such behavior existing without being much talked about.
Yes, there can always be invisible evidence.