What are you talking about? I meant once you accept it, we can do somerthing about it. There’s no reason to be destructive just because we can recognize reality. Please stop linking to articles, every one has developed this poor habit. I already accept most of the conclusions you believe.
I was trying to get across that you can be sanguine, while ackowledging the reality that exists and looking for ways around this. Such as countering dysgenics, etc.
Calling people who recognize racial correlations with intelligence racist is an incorrect appropriation of the term and is stretching ‘racist’ to mean something it shouldn’t it’s a weird trivial sort of technical correctness that is mostly irrelevant. I also think Jiro makes a wildly incorrect claim that most people “wouldn’t dare say so in some contexts”. Every one is abusing this in-group/out-group idea, it’s a defective tool in this example. There’s no reason to have a huge discussion about “Unpopular idea’s attract poor advocates”. The original post stands on largely nothing and there’s no reason for every one to accept it on a whim and be applying it everywhere.
It’s like there’s some sophisticated markov generator that makes you speak less-wrongesque that aims to maximize insular language while being devoid of content.
Calling people who recognize racial correlations with intelligence racist is an incorrect appropriation of the term
I think a lot of people will disagree.
it’s a weird trivial sort of technical correctness that is mostly irrelevant.
So, try declaring in a mainstream public forum that races have significantly different gene-based IQ (I recommend a disposable nym for that). Listen to the names you will be called, see how many commenters will be inclined to exhibit the “weird trivial sort of technical correctness”...
I have done this. People are unskilled at execution. It’s not simple and it takes a bit of care, you have to display empathy that you are uncomfortable with the conclusions, and that it isn’t something that you are happy or want to believe, and that if any one is ever going to provide a solution to give every one a better chance, then we will not get there with making it a crime to think this and organize around it. They just want assurance that you’re not the person they read about in the history books.
They just want assurance that you’re not the person they read about in the history books.
The problem is that many of the people “they read about in the history books” did indeed have accurate views on race. Which means the only way to reassure them that you’re not that person is to either lie to them about your beliefs or have inaccurate beliefs.
What do you mean by “abolish it”? Do you mean replace all people with identical clones so that no one is smarter (or stronger or has more willpower) than anyone else? Or are individual differences only a problem as long as they correlate with race?
What are you talking about? I meant once you accept it, we can do somerthing about it. There’s no reason to be destructive just because we can recognize reality. Please stop linking to articles, every one has developed this poor habit. I already accept most of the conclusions you believe.
I was trying to get across that you can be sanguine, while ackowledging the reality that exists and looking for ways around this. Such as countering dysgenics, etc.
Calling people who recognize racial correlations with intelligence racist is an incorrect appropriation of the term and is stretching ‘racist’ to mean something it shouldn’t it’s a weird trivial sort of technical correctness that is mostly irrelevant. I also think Jiro makes a wildly incorrect claim that most people “wouldn’t dare say so in some contexts”. Every one is abusing this in-group/out-group idea, it’s a defective tool in this example. There’s no reason to have a huge discussion about “Unpopular idea’s attract poor advocates”. The original post stands on largely nothing and there’s no reason for every one to accept it on a whim and be applying it everywhere.
It’s like there’s some sophisticated markov generator that makes you speak less-wrongesque that aims to maximize insular language while being devoid of content.
I think a lot of people will disagree.
So, try declaring in a mainstream public forum that races have significantly different gene-based IQ (I recommend a disposable nym for that). Listen to the names you will be called, see how many commenters will be inclined to exhibit the “weird trivial sort of technical correctness”...
I have done this. People are unskilled at execution. It’s not simple and it takes a bit of care, you have to display empathy that you are uncomfortable with the conclusions, and that it isn’t something that you are happy or want to believe, and that if any one is ever going to provide a solution to give every one a better chance, then we will not get there with making it a crime to think this and organize around it. They just want assurance that you’re not the person they read about in the history books.
Seems to me they would want much more, starting with your head on a stick.
The problem is that many of the people “they read about in the history books” did indeed have accurate views on race. Which means the only way to reassure them that you’re not that person is to either lie to them about your beliefs or have inaccurate beliefs.