It is indeed a shame that you have to behave like this to get laid. But it is fun in its own way.
This is an honest question, but I am curious. Do you consider this type of behavior ethical? Or would you agree that you value getting laid more than being an ethical person?
This is an honest question, but I am curious. Do you consider this type of behavior ethical? Or would you agree that you value getting laid more than being an ethical person?
A lot of girls expect men to lie to them, and actually want you to. It’s a social game which is tacitly acknowledged and sanctioned by most women and the 10% or so of men who are really good with women.
An example: you take a girl back to your place from a nightclub. She’ll say something like “we’re not going to have sex” or “I’m just coming in for a coffee”. If you respond honestly “actually I do want to have sex with you”, she won’t come back with you. If you say “sure”, take her back and then escalate anyway, she’ll put up more resistance but eventually give in and have sex with you.
Why? She wants sex, but she doesn’t want to feel like a “slut”, so she has to make it look like you persuaded her and she resisted. This is known as token resistance
So in this case by lying, you did the girl a favor. Lying is the ethical thing to do.
An example: you take a girl back to your place from a nightclub. She’ll say something like “we’re not going to have sex” or “I’m just coming in for a coffee”. If you respond honestly “actually I do want to have sex with you”, she won’t come back with you.
Not because you’re being honest, but because you’re being tactless. Compare with this answer: “oh, darn, here I was thinking you were trying to get me alone so you could have your way with me....” and that’s just the first thing that popped into my head when I saw your comment. (Probably because I have a vague recollection of having said something similar to a girl once, a few minutes before she literally attacked me.)
ASD is a social calibration ping: she wants to make sure you’re a cool guy. It is not necessary to lie or even conceal the truth in order to be a cool guy, it is only necessary to communicate that you understand the rules of the game being played and are willing to play it. A response like the one I gave above would be an honest answer, but not a tactless one.
This is an honest question, but I am curious. Do you consider this type of behavior ethical? Or would you agree that you value getting laid more than being an ethical person?
A lot of girls expect men to lie to them, and actually want you to. It’s a social game which is tacitly acknowledged and sanctioned by most women and the 10% or so of men who are really good with women.
An example: you take a girl back to your place from a nightclub. She’ll say something like “we’re not going to have sex” or “I’m just coming in for a coffee”. If you respond honestly “actually I do want to have sex with you”, she won’t come back with you. If you say “sure”, take her back and then escalate anyway, she’ll put up more resistance but eventually give in and have sex with you.
Why? She wants sex, but she doesn’t want to feel like a “slut”, so she has to make it look like you persuaded her and she resisted. This is known as token resistance
So in this case by lying, you did the girl a favor. Lying is the ethical thing to do.
Not because you’re being honest, but because you’re being tactless. Compare with this answer: “oh, darn, here I was thinking you were trying to get me alone so you could have your way with me....” and that’s just the first thing that popped into my head when I saw your comment. (Probably because I have a vague recollection of having said something similar to a girl once, a few minutes before she literally attacked me.)
ASD is a social calibration ping: she wants to make sure you’re a cool guy. It is not necessary to lie or even conceal the truth in order to be a cool guy, it is only necessary to communicate that you understand the rules of the game being played and are willing to play it. A response like the one I gave above would be an honest answer, but not a tactless one.
Huh, no. If an adult isn’t willing to owning up to their desires, that’s their own friggin’ problem and it’s not my job to second-guess them.