I feel like they’re using rather strained analogies to talk about subjective preferences in poetry as if they were objective truths. Am I missing/misunderstanding something?
It’s Chesterton. It’s the way he writes, and as always, he is not writing about subjective preferences, but about the true and the good.
Or, as he might put it, with a little anachronism, such rhetorical exaggeration is not a flight of fancy detached from reality; on the contrary, it is exactly because it is such a flight of fancy that it is exact. It is the dull empiric carrying out the sort of work that fills the pages of Psychological Science who (as Ioannidis has shown) is, whether he knows it or not, blown on the wind of subjective folly, and the writer of fantastic stories of sitting on a beam of light who has grasped an objective truth.
I think the passage quoted here is magnificent (and my vote is on Syme’s side). I can read Chesterton for entertainment, and it’s good that he’s writing about the true and the good, whereas LessWrong recites passwords of facile cynicism as badges of rationality the moment the subject comes up. On the other hand, his method is a set of templates that can be wound up and set walking in any direction. Despite his intentions, I do not learn from him anything that he persuades me is true, but he does provide entertaining ways of looking at things.
I feel like they’re using rather strained analogies to talk about subjective preferences in poetry as if they were objective truths. Am I missing/misunderstanding something?
It’s Chesterton. It’s the way he writes, and as always, he is not writing about subjective preferences, but about the true and the good.
Or, as he might put it, with a little anachronism, such rhetorical exaggeration is not a flight of fancy detached from reality; on the contrary, it is exactly because it is such a flight of fancy that it is exact. It is the dull empiric carrying out the sort of work that fills the pages of Psychological Science who (as Ioannidis has shown) is, whether he knows it or not, blown on the wind of subjective folly, and the writer of fantastic stories of sitting on a beam of light who has grasped an objective truth.
I take it you’re not a fan of Chesterton? Or am I really missing something?
Chesterson is the high verbal low math failure mode.
Yes, but his failure mode is low math precisely because it is high verbal!
That’s Žižuku!
I think the passage quoted here is magnificent (and my vote is on Syme’s side). I can read Chesterton for entertainment, and it’s good that he’s writing about the true and the good, whereas LessWrong recites passwords of facile cynicism as badges of rationality the moment the subject comes up. On the other hand, his method is a set of templates that can be wound up and set walking in any direction. Despite his intentions, I do not learn from him anything that he persuades me is true, but he does provide entertaining ways of looking at things.
And this.
And what IlyaShpitser said.