In their response to us they told us this offer was still standing.
A lot of upvotes on such a post without substantial comments seems… unfair?
As of the time of your comment, we believe there were about 8 votes and 30 karma and the post had been up a few hours. We are not sure what voting frequency is on LW (e.g. we’re not sure if this is higher or lower than average?) but if it’s higher, some hypotheses (we’d love to hear inputs from folks who have upvoted without a comment):
Some people are supportive of criticism in general, and may have upvoted to support more critical discussion (even though they may disagree with object level comments)
Some people who upvoted may already agree with the views of this post (e.g. some of the upvoters could be our reviewers)
Some people may have upvoted so this post gets more attention / discussion so they could see what others think of it
Some folks may have upvoted for now and might come back to the post to leave more substantive comments when they have time
I think what makes writing comments on posts like this one difficult is that the post is really structured and phrased in such a way as to make this a situation of personal conflict, internal to the relatively narrow AI safety community.
I have not downvoted the post, but I don’t like this aspect, I am not sure this is the right way to approach things...
If understanding correctly, we think what you’re saying is that because there are many claims in this post, it seems suboptimal that people can’t indicate that via post-level voting.
We think this is a great point. We’d love to see an option for people to agree/disagree with specific claims on posts to provide a more nuanced understanding of where consensus lies. We think it’s very plausible that some of our points will end up being much more controversial than others. (if you wanted to add separate comments for specific claims that people could vote on, we’d love to see that and would be happy to add a note to the top-level post encouraging folks to do so)
Our hope is that folks can comment with areas of disagreement to start a discussion on those points.
Thanks for commenting and sharing your reactions Mishka.
Some quick notes on what you’ve shared:
In their response to us they told us this offer was still standing.
As of the time of your comment, we believe there were about 8 votes and 30 karma and the post had been up a few hours. We are not sure what voting frequency is on LW (e.g. we’re not sure if this is higher or lower than average?) but if it’s higher, some hypotheses (we’d love to hear inputs from folks who have upvoted without a comment):
Some people are supportive of criticism in general, and may have upvoted to support more critical discussion (even though they may disagree with object level comments)
Some people who upvoted may already agree with the views of this post (e.g. some of the upvoters could be our reviewers)
Some people may have upvoted so this post gets more attention / discussion so they could see what others think of it
Some folks may have upvoted for now and might come back to the post to leave more substantive comments when they have time
If understanding correctly, we think what you’re saying is that because there are many claims in this post, it seems suboptimal that people can’t indicate that via post-level voting.
We think this is a great point. We’d love to see an option for people to agree/disagree with specific claims on posts to provide a more nuanced understanding of where consensus lies. We think it’s very plausible that some of our points will end up being much more controversial than others. (if you wanted to add separate comments for specific claims that people could vote on, we’d love to see that and would be happy to add a note to the top-level post encouraging folks to do so)
Our hope is that folks can comment with areas of disagreement to start a discussion on those points.