This I think is our point of divergence. I am not talking about “using your own judgement”. I am talking about collecting sufficient data and using an algorithm of some type
You are talking about who collecting data?
However if you can, then it’s the correct system to use
That just means that utilitarianism is theoretically correct, in the sense that it gives the right answer given all the data and infinite compute. I’ve already addressed that: ethics is practical. It’s intrinsically about his to solve real world problems.
As an example, whether or not the police should be encouraged to kill the moment they feel threatened. From all of these examples—the law, a community poll, etc—the consensus opinion of the community appears to disagree with the data collected from European countries where police are not encouraged to kill, and they kill far fewer people, without a corresponding increase in police casualties. Massive numbers of people in the legislature and the community are just wrong.
The claim that ethics needs a deontological component is compatible with the claim that some existing deontological systems are flawed from the consequentialist point of view. That is a way that rule consequentialism differs from absolute deontology. Unfortunately, the rationalsphere keeps criticising absolute deontology as though it’s the only kind.
And wanting to replace flawed rules with better rules isn’t at all the same as wanting to abandon rules altogether....rule consequentialism isn’t utilitarianism, and utilitarianism isn’t just basing ethics on consequences. It’s noticeable that a lot of people who say they are utilitarians aren’t in the business of breaking laws or wanting to abolish all laws, for all that they insist that deontology is crazy.
You are talking about who collecting data?
That just means that utilitarianism is theoretically correct, in the sense that it gives the right answer given all the data and infinite compute. I’ve already addressed that: ethics is practical. It’s intrinsically about his to solve real world problems.
The claim that ethics needs a deontological component is compatible with the claim that some existing deontological systems are flawed from the consequentialist point of view. That is a way that rule consequentialism differs from absolute deontology. Unfortunately, the rationalsphere keeps criticising absolute deontology as though it’s the only kind.
And wanting to replace flawed rules with better rules isn’t at all the same as wanting to abandon rules altogether....rule consequentialism isn’t utilitarianism, and utilitarianism isn’t just basing ethics on consequences. It’s noticeable that a lot of people who say they are utilitarians aren’t in the business of breaking laws or wanting to abolish all laws, for all that they insist that deontology is crazy.