I feel like “drama queen” is kind of a weird accusation to make here. Like it has connotations to me of “making a fuss out of a triviality”, but it seems clear that the mods did not think it was a triviality. My sense is that the mods wish Duncan had handled this situation differently, but do also think the thing he was reacting to was actually quite bad and worth-reacting-to. Maybe you just disagree with the mods, but...
I guess, can you clarify whether you mean something like
“I have not looked closely at this situation, but from a glance it seems to me that Duncan is making a fuss out of a triviality”? (If this is the case, do you really think you can draw important lessons from your glance?)
“I have looked closely at this situation, and it seems to me that Duncan is making a fuss out of a triviality”?
Funny how you are pulling a Said and asking for clarifications. My view is that in a situation where “someone is wrong on the internet”, the most important skill is to be able to step away, and I suspect the mods would very much agree. I can also very much sympathize with Duncan here, having read his post “you don’t exist, Duncan”, and identified with the sentiment. Still, an argument online is a “triviality”, as you call it, unless your real-life well being depends on it, which I don’t think it does for either of the quarreling parties here. They both would do well to learn the skill of disengagement rather than creating drama (Duncan) or poking the other person incessantly (Said). As I said in my original comment, the drama queen won, whereas both should have been slapped equally.
Funny how you are pulling a Said and asking for clarifications
This sounds like a claim that what Said does is asking for clarification, and that other people do so infrequently enough that Said has major ownership over the concept. I strenuously object to both of these. Lots of people ask for clarifications, it’s very normal, and the difference between how they ask for clarification and how Said asks is the issue at hand.
Funny how you are pulling a Said and asking for clarifications.
It’s been said multiple times that “asking for clarifications” is not the problem with what Said does. I don’t think the similarities go much further than that.
an argument online is a “triviality”, as you call it, unless your real-life well being depends on it
I reject this blanket assertion.
It kinda sounds like you just… don’t really care about LessWrong, and don’t see how anyone else could? I am a person who does care about LW. The idea that I should automatically judge any argument on LW as trivial, without knowing the details beyond “this does not impact my real-life wellbeing”, is frankly ridiculous.
I feel like “drama queen” is kind of a weird accusation to make here. Like it has connotations to me of “making a fuss out of a triviality”, but it seems clear that the mods did not think it was a triviality. My sense is that the mods wish Duncan had handled this situation differently, but do also think the thing he was reacting to was actually quite bad and worth-reacting-to. Maybe you just disagree with the mods, but...
I guess, can you clarify whether you mean something like
“I have not looked closely at this situation, but from a glance it seems to me that Duncan is making a fuss out of a triviality”? (If this is the case, do you really think you can draw important lessons from your glance?)
“I have looked closely at this situation, and it seems to me that Duncan is making a fuss out of a triviality”?
Neither of those is a good fit?
Funny how you are pulling a Said and asking for clarifications. My view is that in a situation where “someone is wrong on the internet”, the most important skill is to be able to step away, and I suspect the mods would very much agree. I can also very much sympathize with Duncan here, having read his post “you don’t exist, Duncan”, and identified with the sentiment. Still, an argument online is a “triviality”, as you call it, unless your real-life well being depends on it, which I don’t think it does for either of the quarreling parties here. They both would do well to learn the skill of disengagement rather than creating drama (Duncan) or poking the other person incessantly (Said). As I said in my original comment, the drama queen won, whereas both should have been slapped equally.
This sounds like a claim that what Said does is asking for clarification, and that other people do so infrequently enough that Said has major ownership over the concept. I strenuously object to both of these. Lots of people ask for clarifications, it’s very normal, and the difference between how they ask for clarification and how Said asks is the issue at hand.
Noted.
It’s been said multiple times that “asking for clarifications” is not the problem with what Said does. I don’t think the similarities go much further than that.
I reject this blanket assertion.
It kinda sounds like you just… don’t really care about LessWrong, and don’t see how anyone else could? I am a person who does care about LW. The idea that I should automatically judge any argument on LW as trivial, without knowing the details beyond “this does not impact my real-life wellbeing”, is frankly ridiculous.
Your view has been acknowledged. Since you call what I said “ridiculous”, I do not believe any further exchange on this topic is worthwhile.