I mean, at some rank in an organization, you sort of have to get the power of adding and/or kicking people from your part of the organization. That strikes me as a big step in power that can require entirely different sets of talents. I’m an adequate programmer, but I have no practice at selecting other people for it.
That being said, I don’t know for instance, if a low ranking (but finished with training) officer can kick out a newly enlisted solider for poor performance in most armies.
I also know that not all organizations give out these powers at equal points: It is entirely possible for someone very low ranking in a Multi-level Marketing organization to be allowed to hire but not fire people, or someone in lower management to be told “We don’t have the budget to hire anyone, but if you need to fire someone, go ahead.” or even “You need to cut staffing in your part of the organization by 10%, email me the names by Friday.”
So I don’t want to sound confident about this, I really do need more information about it to see if this makes sense.
A manager of a local branch of a chain store or fast food restaurant certainly has the responsibility of hiring/firing workers, but is far from an executive.
That is a good point. It seems like there is clearly also some kind of factor in the size of the organization itself. As an example: If I form Mike’s Burgers as a potential new chain and I incorporate it when I have one store, it is entirely possible for me to simultaneously be both a store manager, and a company executive of the corporation, whereas the CEO of a bigger chain might have thousands of stores and so doesn’t individually manage any of them. Am I correct that when most people think of CEO’s, they are thinking of CEO’s who are not also working substantially at another job such as store manager (or programmer, given some software startups?)
most people think of CEO’s, they are thinking of CEO’s who are not also working
substantially at another job such as store manager
My post was about execs in large companies. I have edited it to make that clearer. Certainly things can be different in small companies, particularly startups.
How often are the two tiers of agentiness
“Capable of hiring/firing people” and
“Not capable of hiring/firing people?”
I mean, at some rank in an organization, you sort of have to get the power of adding and/or kicking people from your part of the organization. That strikes me as a big step in power that can require entirely different sets of talents. I’m an adequate programmer, but I have no practice at selecting other people for it.
That being said, I don’t know for instance, if a low ranking (but finished with training) officer can kick out a newly enlisted solider for poor performance in most armies.
I also know that not all organizations give out these powers at equal points: It is entirely possible for someone very low ranking in a Multi-level Marketing organization to be allowed to hire but not fire people, or someone in lower management to be told “We don’t have the budget to hire anyone, but if you need to fire someone, go ahead.” or even “You need to cut staffing in your part of the organization by 10%, email me the names by Friday.”
So I don’t want to sound confident about this, I really do need more information about it to see if this makes sense.
A manager of a local branch of a chain store or fast food restaurant certainly has the responsibility of hiring/firing workers, but is far from an executive.
That is a good point. It seems like there is clearly also some kind of factor in the size of the organization itself. As an example: If I form Mike’s Burgers as a potential new chain and I incorporate it when I have one store, it is entirely possible for me to simultaneously be both a store manager, and a company executive of the corporation, whereas the CEO of a bigger chain might have thousands of stores and so doesn’t individually manage any of them. Am I correct that when most people think of CEO’s, they are thinking of CEO’s who are not also working substantially at another job such as store manager (or programmer, given some software startups?)
My post was about execs in large companies. I have edited it to make that clearer. Certainly things can be different in small companies, particularly startups.