Heh. I’ve read virtually all those links. I still have the three following problems.
Those links are about as internally self-consistent as the Bible.
There are some fundamentally incorrect assumptions that have become gospel.
Most people WON’T read all those links and will therefore be declared unfit to judge anything.
What I asked for was “an immediately available well-structured top-down argument”.
It would be particularly useful and effective if SIAI recruited someone with the opposite point of view to co-develop a counter-argument thread and let the two revolve around each other and solve some of these issues (or, at least, highlight the base important differences in opinion that prevent them from solution). I’m more than willing to spend a ridiculous amount of time on such a task and I’m sure that Ben would be more than willing to devote any time that he can tear away from his busy schedule.
There are some fundamentally incorrect assumptions that have become gospel.
So go ahead and point them out. My guess is that in the ensuing debate it will be found that 1⁄4 of them are indeed fundamentally incorrect assumptions, 1⁄4 of them are arguably correct, and 1⁄2 of them are not really “assumptions that have become gospel”. But until you provide your list, there is no way to know.
Here are some links.
Heh. I’ve read virtually all those links. I still have the three following problems.
Those links are about as internally self-consistent as the Bible.
There are some fundamentally incorrect assumptions that have become gospel.
Most people WON’T read all those links and will therefore be declared unfit to judge anything.
What I asked for was “an immediately available well-structured top-down argument”.
It would be particularly useful and effective if SIAI recruited someone with the opposite point of view to co-develop a counter-argument thread and let the two revolve around each other and solve some of these issues (or, at least, highlight the base important differences in opinion that prevent them from solution). I’m more than willing to spend a ridiculous amount of time on such a task and I’m sure that Ben would be more than willing to devote any time that he can tear away from his busy schedule.
So go ahead and point them out. My guess is that in the ensuing debate it will be found that 1⁄4 of them are indeed fundamentally incorrect assumptions, 1⁄4 of them are arguably correct, and 1⁄2 of them are not really “assumptions that have become gospel”. But until you provide your list, there is no way to know.
Multiple links are not an answer—to be what Goertzel was looking for it has to be a single link that sets out this position.