disincentivizing flamewars by making responses to downvoted comments cost karma
I think Hacker News has a better solution to that problem (if you reply to someone who replied to you, your reply gets delayed—the deeper the thread, the longer the delay).
I wonder if the correct answer is essentially to fork Hacker News, rather than Reddit (Hacker News isn’t open source, but I’m thinking about a site that takes Hacker News’s decisions as the default, unless there seems to be a good reason for something different.)
Well, there’s a vanilla version of HN that comes with the Arc distribution. It doesn’t look like any of the files in the Arc distribution have been modified since Aug 4, 2009. I just got it running on my machine (only took a minute) and submitted a link. Unsure what features are missing. Relevant HN discussion.
If someone knows Paul Graham, we might be able to get a more recent version of the code, minus spam prevention features & such? BTW, I believe Y Combinator is hiring hackers. (Consider applying!)
Arc isn’t really used for anything besides Hacker News. But it’s designed to enable “exploratory programming”. That seems ideal if you wanted to do a lot of hands-on experimentation with features to facilitate quality online discussion. (My other comment explains why there might be low-hanging fruit here.)
Hacker News was rewritten in something other than Arc ~2-3 years ago IIRC, and it was only after that that they managed to add a lot of the interesting moderation features.
There are probably better technologies to build an HN clone in today–Clojure seems strictly better than Arc, for instance–the parts of HN that are interesting to copy are the various discussion and moderation features, and my sense of what they are mostly comes from having observed the site and seeing comments here and there over the years.
Yes, I think Hacker News is plausibly the best general-purpose online discussion forum right now. It would not surprise me if it’s possible to do much better, though. As far as I can tell, most online discussion software is designed to maximize ad revenue (or some proxy like user growth/user engagement) rather than quality discussions. Hacker News is an exception because the entire site is essentially a giant advertisement to get people applying for Y Combinator, and higher-quality discussions make it a better-quality advertisement.
I think Hacker News has a better solution to that problem (if you reply to someone who replied to you, your reply gets delayed—the deeper the thread, the longer the delay).
I wonder if the correct answer is essentially to fork Hacker News, rather than Reddit (Hacker News isn’t open source, but I’m thinking about a site that takes Hacker News’s decisions as the default, unless there seems to be a good reason for something different.)
Well, there’s a vanilla version of HN that comes with the Arc distribution. It doesn’t look like any of the files in the Arc distribution have been modified since Aug 4, 2009. I just got it running on my machine (only took a minute) and submitted a link. Unsure what features are missing. Relevant HN discussion.
If someone knows Paul Graham, we might be able to get a more recent version of the code, minus spam prevention features & such? BTW, I believe Y Combinator is hiring hackers. (Consider applying!)
Arc isn’t really used for anything besides Hacker News. But it’s designed to enable “exploratory programming”. That seems ideal if you wanted to do a lot of hands-on experimentation with features to facilitate quality online discussion. (My other comment explains why there might be low-hanging fruit here.)
Hacker News was rewritten in something other than Arc ~2-3 years ago IIRC, and it was only after that that they managed to add a lot of the interesting moderation features.
There are probably better technologies to build an HN clone in today–Clojure seems strictly better than Arc, for instance–the parts of HN that are interesting to copy are the various discussion and moderation features, and my sense of what they are mostly comes from having observed the site and seeing comments here and there over the years.
Here is some alternative code for building an HN clone: https://github.com/jcs/lobsters (see https://lobste.rs/about for differences to HN).
Yes, I think Hacker News is plausibly the best general-purpose online discussion forum right now. It would not surprise me if it’s possible to do much better, though. As far as I can tell, most online discussion software is designed to maximize ad revenue (or some proxy like user growth/user engagement) rather than quality discussions. Hacker News is an exception because the entire site is essentially a giant advertisement to get people applying for Y Combinator, and higher-quality discussions make it a better-quality advertisement.
Relevant: http://danluu.com/hn-comments/