What would you think about a solution like “if you’re not vaccinated and you loudly say so then we’ll ban you, but otherwise you’ll get away with it”?
I can see how it’d be negative to filter out “unvaccinated and honest about it”, creating selection for “unvaccinated and willing to lie about it”; you don’t like liars. But I also think I’m more willing to accept someone who’s quietly unvaccinated because they’re very scared of needles (but who also basically agrees that vaccines are good, and is sort of ashamed about being unvaccinated), and less willing to accept someone who regularly posts on Facebook about how vaccines were invented by Satanists in government to inject compliance drugs so the Illuminati can take over. When I frame it as selecting for people who are “unvaccinated and willing to shut up about it”, rather than selecting for people who are “vaccinated and dishonest about it”, I think I like the sound of that selection effect a lot more. So I think I’d be interested in a policy like “if we find out that you’re unvaccinated then we’ll ban you, but we’re also not trying very hard to find out”. Maybe there’s a useful distinction between requiring dishonesty and requiring silence?
I don’t really understand what you’re trying to accomplish with this policy? I can’t think of any social dances that exclude unvaccinated people because the organizers find anti-vaxxers annoying; they’re trying to reduce infection risk.
There are (at least) two channels at play. Unvaxed people are more likely to spread Covid. Visible acceptance of anti-vax sentiment is more likely to attract more unvaxed people (and likely to reduce boosters among the ambivalent vaxed). When you’re not checking vax cards, you can adopt policies that make vaxx the default, obvious preference, even without formal enforcement.
I think antivaxxers could plausibly pose a higher infection risk because they’re unusually likely to hang out with other unvaccinated people, or to do other bad decisionmaking. Someone who’s unvaccinated because they’re scared of needles might still make good decisions otherwise—like they might stay home if they’re feeling a sniffle, or test themselves for COVID if their housemate is sick.
Also, you want to exclude unvaccinated people because they pose an infection risk, so you already wanted to exclude anyone who posts “I hate vaccines” on Facebook. You’re just worried about the incentives or selection effects if you use an honour system, because some people will lie and say they’re vaccinated when they aren’t. I’m suggesting that the incentives or selection effects aren’t as negative if you only require silence, so nobody has to actually lie.
What would you think about a solution like “if you’re not vaccinated and you loudly say so then we’ll ban you, but otherwise you’ll get away with it”?
I can see how it’d be negative to filter out “unvaccinated and honest about it”, creating selection for “unvaccinated and willing to lie about it”; you don’t like liars. But I also think I’m more willing to accept someone who’s quietly unvaccinated because they’re very scared of needles (but who also basically agrees that vaccines are good, and is sort of ashamed about being unvaccinated), and less willing to accept someone who regularly posts on Facebook about how vaccines were invented by Satanists in government to inject compliance drugs so the Illuminati can take over. When I frame it as selecting for people who are “unvaccinated and willing to shut up about it”, rather than selecting for people who are “vaccinated and dishonest about it”, I think I like the sound of that selection effect a lot more. So I think I’d be interested in a policy like “if we find out that you’re unvaccinated then we’ll ban you, but we’re also not trying very hard to find out”. Maybe there’s a useful distinction between requiring dishonesty and requiring silence?
I don’t really understand what you’re trying to accomplish with this policy? I can’t think of any social dances that exclude unvaccinated people because the organizers find anti-vaxxers annoying; they’re trying to reduce infection risk.
There are (at least) two channels at play. Unvaxed people are more likely to spread Covid. Visible acceptance of anti-vax sentiment is more likely to attract more unvaxed people (and likely to reduce boosters among the ambivalent vaxed). When you’re not checking vax cards, you can adopt policies that make vaxx the default, obvious preference, even without formal enforcement.
I think antivaxxers could plausibly pose a higher infection risk because they’re unusually likely to hang out with other unvaccinated people, or to do other bad decisionmaking. Someone who’s unvaccinated because they’re scared of needles might still make good decisions otherwise—like they might stay home if they’re feeling a sniffle, or test themselves for COVID if their housemate is sick.
Also, you want to exclude unvaccinated people because they pose an infection risk, so you already wanted to exclude anyone who posts “I hate vaccines” on Facebook. You’re just worried about the incentives or selection effects if you use an honour system, because some people will lie and say they’re vaccinated when they aren’t. I’m suggesting that the incentives or selection effects aren’t as negative if you only require silence, so nobody has to actually lie.