George Hotz said on stream that he wouldn’t bring it up in the debate with Eliezer but the real reason doomers won’t win is that God is real, which I think is a better argument than any that were brought in the actual debate
Hotz has also described having manic episodes; unclear if that’s related to his religious or AI beliefs, perhaps his streaming fans might know more about that. (Having failed to solve self-driving cars, and having failed to solve Ethereum transaction fees by forking his own cryptocurrency, and having failed to solve Twitter search, he apparently has moved on to solving DL ASICs & solar power & is projecting a valuation of $2 billion for his company in a few years when they are making zettaflops solar-panel-powered supercomputers which can train GPT-4 in a day.)
(Even if god were somehow real, here or in some other corner of the multiverse, we should still act as if we’re in a universe where things are determined purely by simple physical laws, and work to make things better under those conditions.)
How is that addressing Hotz’s claim? Eliezer’s post doesn’t address any worlds with a God that is outside of the scope of our Game of Life, and it doesn’t address how well the initial conditions and rules were chosen. The only counter I see in that post is that terrible things have happened in the past, which provide a lower bound for how bad things can get in the future. But Hotz didn’t claim that things won’t go bad, just that it won’t be boring.
A claim about the debate: https://twitter.com/powerbottomdad1/status/1693067693291683981
Hotz has also described having manic episodes; unclear if that’s related to his religious or AI beliefs, perhaps his streaming fans might know more about that. (Having failed to solve self-driving cars, and having failed to solve Ethereum transaction fees by forking his own cryptocurrency, and having failed to solve Twitter search, he apparently has moved on to solving DL ASICs & solar power & is projecting a valuation of $2 billion for his company in a few years when they are making zettaflops solar-panel-powered supercomputers which can train GPT-4 in a day.)
Not sure if this is a serious claim by Hotz or the tweeter, but if so, Eliezer addressed it 15 years ago: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/sYgv4eYH82JEsTD34/beyond-the-reach-of-god
(Even if god were somehow real, here or in some other corner of the multiverse, we should still act as if we’re in a universe where things are determined purely by simple physical laws, and work to make things better under those conditions.)
How is that addressing Hotz’s claim? Eliezer’s post doesn’t address any worlds with a God that is outside of the scope of our Game of Life, and it doesn’t address how well the initial conditions and rules were chosen. The only counter I see in that post is that terrible things have happened in the past, which provide a lower bound for how bad things can get in the future. But Hotz didn’t claim that things won’t go bad, just that it won’t be boring.