He needs an excuse? Recall the original post said, straight up:
In other words, the form of this discussion is not ‘Do you like this?’ - you probably have a different cost function from people who are held responsible for how LW looks as a whole
Is that your true rejection? That is, if this poll were posted to Main, and all readers were encouraged to answer, and the results came back essentially the same, would you then allow the results to influence what kind of policy to adopt? Or are you just sufficiently confident about the need for such a moderation policy that, absent clear negative consequences not previously considered, you’ll implement it anyway?
I don’t mean at all to suggest that the latter answer is inappropriate. Overall I trust your moderating judgment, and you clearly have more experience with and have thought more about LW’s public image than probably anyone. If you decide the strong version of this policy is needed, notwithstanding disagreement from most LW members, I’m happy to give substantial deference to that decision. But does it matter either way whether this post is selectively read?
Not if readers were “encouraged” to answer. If there were some way of knowing the population was representative (i.e. we selected at random and got back responses from everyone selected)… hm, possibly. I know that what people say at local LW gatherings has a stronger influence on me than what I hear online, but that could be for ‘improper’ reasons of face-to-face contact or greater personal familiarity.
I know that what people say at local LW gatherings has a stronger influence on me than what I hear online, but that could be for ‘improper’ reasons of face-to-face contact or greater personal familiarity.
The Bay Area meetup is most definitely not-representative of LW in general. Heck, the Bay Area is an extreme outlier even by California, not to mention US or World, standards.
Posts like these are selectively read. Then not everyone votes in the poll. Shrug.
Translation: these polls frequently don’t go the way I want, so I need an excuse to dismiss them.
He needs an excuse? Recall the original post said, straight up:
Is that your true rejection? That is, if this poll were posted to Main, and all readers were encouraged to answer, and the results came back essentially the same, would you then allow the results to influence what kind of policy to adopt? Or are you just sufficiently confident about the need for such a moderation policy that, absent clear negative consequences not previously considered, you’ll implement it anyway?
I don’t mean at all to suggest that the latter answer is inappropriate. Overall I trust your moderating judgment, and you clearly have more experience with and have thought more about LW’s public image than probably anyone. If you decide the strong version of this policy is needed, notwithstanding disagreement from most LW members, I’m happy to give substantial deference to that decision. But does it matter either way whether this post is selectively read?
Not if readers were “encouraged” to answer. If there were some way of knowing the population was representative (i.e. we selected at random and got back responses from everyone selected)… hm, possibly. I know that what people say at local LW gatherings has a stronger influence on me than what I hear online, but that could be for ‘improper’ reasons of face-to-face contact or greater personal familiarity.
The Bay Area meetup is most definitely not-representative of LW in general. Heck, the Bay Area is an extreme outlier even by California, not to mention US or World, standards.