Trivially, nega-you who hates everything you like (oh, you want to put them out of their misery? Too bad they want to live now, since they don’t want what you want). But such a being would certainly not be a human.
I’m not sure why you’re both hung up on that the things hypothetical-me is interacting with need be human. Manfred: I address a similar entity in a different post. Adele_L: …and?
I’m utterly convinced that the happiness of some people ought to count negatively
In this context, ‘people’ typically refers to a being with moral weight. What we know about morality comes from our intuitions mostly, and we have an intuitive concept ‘person’ which counts in some way morally. (Not necessarily a human, sentient aliens probably count as ‘people’, perhaps even dolphins.) Defining an arbitrary being which does not correspond to this intuitive concept needs to be flagged as such, as a warning that our intuitions are not directly applicable here.
Anyway, I get that you are basically trying to make a utility function with revenge. This is certainly possible, but having negative utility functions is a particularly bad way to do it.
I was putting an upper bound on (what I thought at the time as) how negative the utility vector dot product would have to be for me to actually desire them to be unhappy. As to the last part, I am reconsidering this as possibly generally inefficient.
Trivially, nega-you who hates everything you like (oh, you want to put them out of their misery? Too bad they want to live now, since they don’t want what you want). But such a being would certainly not be a human.
This is not a being in the reference class “people”.
I’m not sure why you’re both hung up on that the things hypothetical-me is interacting with need be human. Manfred: I address a similar entity in a different post. Adele_L: …and?
You said this:
In this context, ‘people’ typically refers to a being with moral weight. What we know about morality comes from our intuitions mostly, and we have an intuitive concept ‘person’ which counts in some way morally. (Not necessarily a human, sentient aliens probably count as ‘people’, perhaps even dolphins.) Defining an arbitrary being which does not correspond to this intuitive concept needs to be flagged as such, as a warning that our intuitions are not directly applicable here.
Anyway, I get that you are basically trying to make a utility function with revenge. This is certainly possible, but having negative utility functions is a particularly bad way to do it.
I was putting an upper bound on (what I thought at the time as) how negative the utility vector dot product would have to be for me to actually desire them to be unhappy. As to the last part, I am reconsidering this as possibly generally inefficient.