Suppose you have the option that with every purchase you make, you can divert a percentage (including 0 and 100) of the money to a GiveWell endorsed charity that you’re not personally affiliated with. Meaning, you still pay the same price, but the seller gets less/none, and the rest goes to charity. Seller has no right to complain. To what extent would you use this? Would it be different for different products, or sellers? Do you have any specific examples of where you would or wouldn’t use it?
Also, assume you can start a company, and that the same thing applies to all purchases the company makes, would you do it? Any specific business?
It is just a thought experiment, not something that could realistically exist. Suppose the president/king/whoever gave you (and only you) this power, and while the sellers are furious, they can’t do anything about it. They are not participating by choice.
This seems consequentially equivalent to “legal issues aside, is it ethical to steal from businesses in order to give to [EA-approved] charity, and if so, which ones?”.
I suspect answering would shed more heat than light.
For fun, let’s reshuffle accents. So, every time you make a contribution to an EA-approved charity, you can go and pick yourself a free gift of equal value from any seller, and the seller can’t do anything about that including complain. Is that OK? :-)
Great example. It is an isomorphic situation, that paints it in a completely different light.
If you are asking me personally, I can see myself doing just that in some cases, though definitely not as a standard way of obtaining goods. The reason for the original question was to see what the rest of you think of the matter.
I don’t recall any past controversy offhand, but given that business in general and many specific categories of business in particular are highly politicized, I suspect the answers you’d get would be more revealing of your respondents’ politics (read: boring) than of the underlying ethics. For the same reason I’d expect it to be more contentious than average once we start getting into details.
There are also PR issues with thought experiments that could be construed as advocating crime, although that’s more an issue with my reframing than with your original question. There’s no actual policy, though; there is policy against advocating violence, but this doesn’t qualify.
Suppose you have the option that with every purchase you make, you can divert a percentage (including 0 and 100) of the money to a GiveWell endorsed charity that you’re not personally affiliated with. Meaning, you still pay the same price, but the seller gets less/none, and the rest goes to charity. Seller has no right to complain. To what extent would you use this? Would it be different for different products, or sellers? Do you have any specific examples of where you would or wouldn’t use it?
Also, assume you can start a company, and that the same thing applies to all purchases the company makes, would you do it? Any specific business?
Well meaning, rationalized theft is still an assault on the seller.
I see no reason to send my money anywhere other than to the most needy person. I’d divert 100%.
Why would there be any sellers under this system?
It is just a thought experiment, not something that could realistically exist. Suppose the president/king/whoever gave you (and only you) this power, and while the sellers are furious, they can’t do anything about it. They are not participating by choice.
This seems consequentially equivalent to “legal issues aside, is it ethical to steal from businesses in order to give to [EA-approved] charity, and if so, which ones?”.
I suspect answering would shed more heat than light.
Yes, pretty much. Has this been discussed before? I did a search and found nothing similar here.
EDIT: I found this somewhat related post: Really Extreme Altruism.
If it is a well known controversial issue, how about a poll to satisfy my curiosity without sparking any flames..
So: legal issues aside, is it ethical to steal from businesses in order to give to [EA-approved] charity?
[pollid:700]
For fun, let’s reshuffle accents. So, every time you make a contribution to an EA-approved charity, you can go and pick yourself a free gift of equal value from any seller, and the seller can’t do anything about that including complain. Is that OK? :-)
Great example. It is an isomorphic situation, that paints it in a completely different light.
If you are asking me personally, I can see myself doing just that in some cases, though definitely not as a standard way of obtaining goods. The reason for the original question was to see what the rest of you think of the matter.
I don’t recall any past controversy offhand, but given that business in general and many specific categories of business in particular are highly politicized, I suspect the answers you’d get would be more revealing of your respondents’ politics (read: boring) than of the underlying ethics. For the same reason I’d expect it to be more contentious than average once we start getting into details.
There are also PR issues with thought experiments that could be construed as advocating crime, although that’s more an issue with my reframing than with your original question. There’s no actual policy, though; there is policy against advocating violence, but this doesn’t qualify.
It does happen to an extent.
You can buy a movie or you can pirate it and donate the price of the move.
That was actually the original topic of a conversation that inspired this question.
Because probably not everyone would divert 100% to a GiveWell endorsed charity.