Just—the absolute gall of that motherfucker! I still need to finish my memoir about why I don’t trust him the way I used to, but it’s just so emotionally hard—like a lifelong devout Catholic denouncing the Pope. But what can you do when the Pope is actually wrong? My loyalty is to the truth, not to him.
This doesn’t seem to be about the term rationalist at all. It seems to be about which rhetorical style different people prefer. Eliezer makes in a much more confident and more polarizing way then Scott.
In my experience Scott has an epistemic style where he assumes and seeks out contrary information, and Eliezer does not...he’s more into early cognitive closure. It’s not just tone, it’s method.
No, not really? I generally ignore anything Scott writes which could be described as ‘agreeing with Yud’—it’s his other work I find valuable, work I wouldn’t expect Yud to write in any style.
It doesn’t help when Yudkowsky actively encourages this confusion! As he Tweeted today: “Anyways, Scott, this is just the usual division of labor in our caliphate: we’re both always right, but you cater to the crowd that wants to hear it from somebody too modest to admit that, and I cater to the crowd that wants somebody out of that closet.”
Just—the absolute gall of that motherfucker! I still need to finish my memoir about why I don’t trust him the way I used to, but it’s just so emotionally hard—like a lifelong devout Catholic denouncing the Pope. But what can you do when the Pope is actually wrong? My loyalty is to the truth, not to him.
This doesn’t seem to be about the term rationalist at all. It seems to be about which rhetorical style different people prefer. Eliezer makes in a much more confident and more polarizing way then Scott.
In my experience Scott has an epistemic style where he assumes and seeks out contrary information, and Eliezer does not...he’s more into early cognitive closure. It’s not just tone, it’s method.
No, not really? I generally ignore anything Scott writes which could be described as ‘agreeing with Yud’—it’s his other work I find valuable, work I wouldn’t expect Yud to write in any style.