This used to be an interesting site for discussing rationality. It was bad enough when certain parties started spamming the discussion channel with woo-woo about the machine Rapture, but now we have a post openly advocating terrorism, and instead of being downvoted to oblivion, it becomes one of the most highly upvoted discussion posts, with a string of approving comments?
I think I’ll stick to hanging out on sites where the standard of rationality is a little better. Ciao, folks.
This says more about your own beliefs and what you read into the post than anything I actually wrote.
I am reminded of a quote from Aleister Crowley, who I imagine would know:
“The conscience of the world is so guilty that it always assumes that people who investigate heresies must be heretics; just as if a doctor who studies leprosy must be a leper. Indeed, it is only recently that science has been allowed to study anything without reproach.”
This says more about your own beliefs and what you read into the post than anything I actually wrote.
Terrorism was the first thing that came to my mind too.
I suggest that to counteract this you should portray the other side as terrorists. Those who want to build AI without considering its safety. You trying to stop them would just constitute counter-terrorism then ;-)
This post was ALL about rational debate. This is a highly calculated assessment of the fragility of Moore’s Law. THis is the kind of stuff government advisors would probably have figured out by now. If you say this helps terrorists (which is ironic because the conclusion was only airbombing can stop fabrication, and terrorists don’t have access to that yet), well this is also highly useful to anyone who wants to stop terrorists.
The conclusion is highly interesting. If a war was to break out today between developed nations, taking out the other’s fabricators and nuclear capabilities must be the highest priorities.
This used to be an interesting site for discussing rationality. It was bad enough when certain parties started spamming the discussion channel with woo-woo about the machine Rapture, but now we have a post openly advocating terrorism, and instead of being downvoted to oblivion, it becomes one of the most highly upvoted discussion posts, with a string of approving comments?
I think I’ll stick to hanging out on sites where the standard of rationality is a little better. Ciao, folks.
This says more about your own beliefs and what you read into the post than anything I actually wrote.
I am reminded of a quote from Aleister Crowley, who I imagine would know:
Terrorism was the first thing that came to my mind too.
I suggest that to counteract this you should portray the other side as terrorists. Those who want to build AI without considering its safety. You trying to stop them would just constitute counter-terrorism then ;-)
Gwern wouldn’t advocate terrorism as a solution; he already has argued that it’s ineffective.
If it was effective, it doesn’t mean it should be removed. Even more reason it should be known to be at risk.
This post was ALL about rational debate. This is a highly calculated assessment of the fragility of Moore’s Law. THis is the kind of stuff government advisors would probably have figured out by now. If you say this helps terrorists (which is ironic because the conclusion was only airbombing can stop fabrication, and terrorists don’t have access to that yet), well this is also highly useful to anyone who wants to stop terrorists.
The conclusion is highly interesting. If a war was to break out today between developed nations, taking out the other’s fabricators and nuclear capabilities must be the highest priorities.