If instead you are thinking about humans, it seems like you totally could be corrigible if you tried, and it seems like you might totally have tried if you had been raised in the right way (e.g. if your parents had lovingly but strictly trained you to be corrigible-in-way-X.)
Are there any examples of this in history, where being corrigible-in-way-X wasn’t being constantly incentivized/reinforced via a larger game (e.g., status game) that the human was embedded in? In other words, I think an apparently corrigible human can be modeled as trying to optimize for survival and social status as terminal values, and using “being corrigible” as an instrumental strategy as long as that’s an effective strategy. In other words, it’s unclear that they can be better described as “corrigible” than “deceptive” (in the AI alignment sense).
(Humans probably have hard-coded drives for survival and social status, so it may actually be harder to train humans than AIs to be actually corrigible. My point above is just that humans don’t seem to be a good example of corrigibility being easy or possible.)
Are there any examples of this in history, where being corrigible-in-way-X wasn’t being constantly incentivized/reinforced via a larger game (e.g., status game) that the human was embedded in? In other words, I think an apparently corrigible human can be modeled as trying to optimize for survival and social status as terminal values, and using “being corrigible” as an instrumental strategy as long as that’s an effective strategy. In other words, it’s unclear that they can be better described as “corrigible” than “deceptive” (in the AI alignment sense).
(Humans probably have hard-coded drives for survival and social status, so it may actually be harder to train humans than AIs to be actually corrigible. My point above is just that humans don’t seem to be a good example of corrigibility being easy or possible.)