I am confused as to why Quirrell/Voldemort would leave behind the false clue of the animagi potion. Revealing an escape mechanism that may prove usefull later doesn’t make sense.
So now Amelia Bones changed the rules of visitation at Azkaban to prevent forming a new animagus. However, the prison is still vulnerable to an unregistered Animagus from escaping (unless they have detection methods?). Escape like this would still lead to a Sirius style manhunt unless a realistic corpse was left behind.
Interestingly, Sirius whom in this fiction is probably already escaped (how he did it un-noticed is beyond me) may have free run of Hogwarts. Per cannon, Pettigrew in animus form was not warded from Hogwarts proper. I wonder if Sirius’s presence within the castle was the glitch Fred and George noted on the Marauder’s Map in chapter 25. They noted two glitches, one intermittent and one permanent. Pettigrew’s whereabouts if still indeterminant as well since he didn’t hid in plain sight as Scabber in this fiction (perhaps his death wasn’t faked this time).
I am confused as to why Quirrell/Voldemort would leave behind the false clue of the animagi potion. Revealing an escape mechanism that may prove usefull later doesn’t make sense.
The reason for it was actually ingenious- look at the actual result:
Albus sighed. “Indeed. But even if he has tricked me perfectly, we may at least rely on the conclusion that it was not Harry Potter.”
Since Quirrellmort wanted to divert suspicion from Harry in the event of some mishap, he left what amounts to a “VOLDEMORT WAS HERE” flag at the scene of the crime. Not even Mad-Eye Moody would suspect that Voldemort and Harry Potter pulled off the prison break together.
Not even Mad-Eye Moody would suspect that Voldemort and Harry Potter pulled off the prison break together.
Truly, it is insanely mind-boggling to think about. I’m still freaking out about it myself a little, even as I, a reader, was privileged with a much broader perspective on the circumstances leading up to the event than the characters. Except maybe Quirrelmort, he’s a grand mysterious meddler.
I thought that the intermittent glitch was there being two Harry Potters, when he’s using the Time Turner. Though, theoretically, they should have noticed this before, given that Harry’s not the first student to use one.
The permanent one could be that the name Tom Riddle is constantly juxtaposed with Quirinus Quirrell.
Good point! They ought to be able to locate the hypothesis that it really is two people in one, but with no understanding of the second person’s importance, they might well just consider it “anomaly”.
Considering who it is they’re dealing with, I’d think that a more immediately available hypothesis is that Tom Riddle is another identity worn by the person who now calls himself Quirinus Quirrel. I certainly wouldn’t discount the possibility that magic related to true names exists, and if so, anyone with an interest in concealing their identity in the long term is likely to have messed around with it.
Time Turners and the Marauder’s Map didn’t mix in canon works. Double entry glitch seems likely.
I can’t recall, did canon works show Harry in the Marauder’s Map despite being under his invisibility cloak? I would assume from dialog in HPMOR that it wouldn’t be able to detect him as it’s ability to hide is such that he can elude even death’s detection.
Yes...long before Rowling decided to make Harry’s cloak legendary.
I don’t have any solid proof of it, but too many things don’t match up if you assume that the Potter Cloak was a Deathly Hallow from the beginning, starting with the fact that no one realized that the idea of a functioning heirloom Invisibility Cloak is apparently an oxymoron, and definitely including that Moody’s eye (buffed to an insane degree in MoR) and a toy invented by four pranksters in their teens (also buffed in MoR, if to a lesser degree) are able to see where Death may not.
Yeah, things don’t make much sense in canon, but what do we do about it? Eliezer has been fixing this continuity glitch by going through the things that could beat Harry’s cloak and buffing them up, not (as he might have) by denying their powers over the cloak. (I think that there’s a slogan in here somewhere, to the effect that only an Epic Item can beat an Epic Item, and Harry’s cloak is Epic.) So Moody’s eye must be the Eye of Vecna/Vance, and the Marauder’s Map must be an invention of the Founders of Hogwarts (only lightly tweaked by the Marauders, assuming that this is the same group as in canon). So it goes right along with what Eliezer’s been doing that the Map should see under Harry’s cloak. The Four Founders are better than Death at finding people, after all.
I am confused as to why Quirrell/Voldemort would leave behind the false clue of the animagi potion. Revealing an escape mechanism that may prove usefull later doesn’t make sense.
So now Amelia Bones changed the rules of visitation at Azkaban to prevent forming a new animagus. However, the prison is still vulnerable to an unregistered Animagus from escaping (unless they have detection methods?). Escape like this would still lead to a Sirius style manhunt unless a realistic corpse was left behind.
Interestingly, Sirius whom in this fiction is probably already escaped (how he did it un-noticed is beyond me) may have free run of Hogwarts. Per cannon, Pettigrew in animus form was not warded from Hogwarts proper. I wonder if Sirius’s presence within the castle was the glitch Fred and George noted on the Marauder’s Map in chapter 25. They noted two glitches, one intermittent and one permanent. Pettigrew’s whereabouts if still indeterminant as well since he didn’t hid in plain sight as Scabber in this fiction (perhaps his death wasn’t faked this time).
The reason for it was actually ingenious- look at the actual result:
Since Quirrellmort wanted to divert suspicion from Harry in the event of some mishap, he left what amounts to a “VOLDEMORT WAS HERE” flag at the scene of the crime. Not even Mad-Eye Moody would suspect that Voldemort and Harry Potter pulled off the prison break together.
Truly, it is insanely mind-boggling to think about. I’m still freaking out about it myself a little, even as I, a reader, was privileged with a much broader perspective on the circumstances leading up to the event than the characters. Except maybe Quirrelmort, he’s a grand mysterious meddler.
Oh, I see it now: the intermittent glitch is Tom Riddle, who disappears when Quirrell is in zombie-mode.
I thought that the intermittent glitch was there being two Harry Potters, when he’s using the Time Turner. Though, theoretically, they should have noticed this before, given that Harry’s not the first student to use one.
The permanent one could be that the name Tom Riddle is constantly juxtaposed with Quirinus Quirrell.
That one’s so obvious that even a couple of Gryffindors ought to be able to figure out what it means.
Even when they don’t know that Voldemort’s real name is Tom Riddle?
Good point! They ought to be able to locate the hypothesis that it really is two people in one, but with no understanding of the second person’s importance, they might well just consider it “anomaly”.
Considering who it is they’re dealing with, I’d think that a more immediately available hypothesis is that Tom Riddle is another identity worn by the person who now calls himself Quirinus Quirrel. I certainly wouldn’t discount the possibility that magic related to true names exists, and if so, anyone with an interest in concealing their identity in the long term is likely to have messed around with it.
Time Turners and the Marauder’s Map didn’t mix in canon works. Double entry glitch seems likely.
I can’t recall, did canon works show Harry in the Marauder’s Map despite being under his invisibility cloak? I would assume from dialog in HPMOR that it wouldn’t be able to detect him as it’s ability to hide is such that he can elude even death’s detection.
Lupin saw Harry & friends on the Map while they were under the Cloak in Book 3.
Yes...long before Rowling decided to make Harry’s cloak legendary.
I don’t have any solid proof of it, but too many things don’t match up if you assume that the Potter Cloak was a Deathly Hallow from the beginning, starting with the fact that no one realized that the idea of a functioning heirloom Invisibility Cloak is apparently an oxymoron, and definitely including that Moody’s eye (buffed to an insane degree in MoR) and a toy invented by four pranksters in their teens (also buffed in MoR, if to a lesser degree) are able to see where Death may not.
Yeah, things don’t make much sense in canon, but what do we do about it? Eliezer has been fixing this continuity glitch by going through the things that could beat Harry’s cloak and buffing them up, not (as he might have) by denying their powers over the cloak. (I think that there’s a slogan in here somewhere, to the effect that only an Epic Item can beat an Epic Item, and Harry’s cloak is Epic.) So Moody’s eye must be the Eye of Vecna/Vance, and the Marauder’s Map must be an invention of the Founders of Hogwarts (only lightly tweaked by the Marauders, assuming that this is the same group as in canon). So it goes right along with what Eliezer’s been doing that the Map should see under Harry’s cloak. The Four Founders are better than Death at finding people, after all.
It’s possible they were tricked in believing they had ever captured him in the first place.
“I’m not serious!”
I don’t deserve all of these upvotes; it’s not my idea originally.
It’s probably Pettigrew in the cell.
There was some discussion of that in thread v; search the page for “Sirius”.