Huh. That’s surprising. So what are humans doing differently? Are we doing anything differently? Should we wonder if someone given total knowledge of my optical processing could show me a picture that I was convinced was a lion even though it was essentially random?
Those rather are the questions, aren’t they? My thought when the original paper showed up on HN was that we can’t do anything remotely similar to constructing adversarial examples for a human visual cortex, and we already know of a lot of visual illusions (I’m particularly thinking of the Magic Eyeautostereograms)… “Perhaps there are thoughts we cannot think”.
Hard to see how we could test it without solving AI, though.
I don’t think we’d need to solve AI to test this. If we could get a detailed enough understanding of how the optical cortex functions it might be doable. Alternatively, we could try it on a very basic uploaded mouse or similar creature. On the other hand, if we can upload mice then we’re pretty close to uploading people, and if we can upload people we’ve got AI.
I’m not sure if NNs already do this, but perhaps using augmentation on the runtime input might help? Similar to how humans can look at things in different lights or at different angles if needed.
Huh. That’s surprising. So what are humans doing differently? Are we doing anything differently? Should we wonder if someone given total knowledge of my optical processing could show me a picture that I was convinced was a lion even though it was essentially random?
Those rather are the questions, aren’t they? My thought when the original paper showed up on HN was that we can’t do anything remotely similar to constructing adversarial examples for a human visual cortex, and we already know of a lot of visual illusions (I’m particularly thinking of the Magic Eye autostereograms)… “Perhaps there are thoughts we cannot think”.
Hard to see how we could test it without solving AI, though.
I don’t think we’d need to solve AI to test this. If we could get a detailed enough understanding of how the optical cortex functions it might be doable. Alternatively, we could try it on a very basic uploaded mouse or similar creature. On the other hand, if we can upload mice then we’re pretty close to uploading people, and if we can upload people we’ve got AI.
I’m not sure if NNs already do this, but perhaps using augmentation on the runtime input might help? Similar to how humans can look at things in different lights or at different angles if needed.