However, if progressivism continues on its current track within several decades sentiments like that will be considered “anti-BDSM hate speech”.
I can imagine this future. I certainly wouldn’t say that there’s anything wrong with BDSM, but probably best to leave it to adults to discover of their own accord.
Women don’t enjoy sex with men whose status is equal to or lower than theirs.
Oh, ok now I understand. Reminds me of a woman I once knew who decided she couldn’t associate (romantically or platonically) with any of her colleagues who were younger and lower-status than her, whether male or female. Its interesting, because she describes herself as a communist.
Do you know what her life and happiness level are like now? Would you guess she’s better or worse off than the women who freely chose to marry Henry?
No, but I’d guess she’s probably better off than that woman. I’ve already read that SSC article, and I understand your point, but I would hope that there is some way of avoiding the Henrys of the world without anyone ever having to say “If I try to run away from home my family will break my legs”. Of course, there is a difference between forced marriages and arranged marriages.
I’ve already read that SSC article, and I understand your point, but I would hope that there is some way of avoiding the Henrys of the world without anyone ever having to say “If I try to run away from home my family will break my legs”.
I don’t thing even Jim advocates going that far. His position is more, “if I run away from home no one will financially support me and my status will go through the floor”.
I don’t thing even Jim advocates going that far. His position is more, “if I run away from home no one will financially support me and my status will go through the floor”.
It is true that the case I mentioned is a fairly extreme (but real) example, and not representative of arranged marriages in general. There is still a problem that even if it works in the case of benevolent and wise parents, it is really open to abuse.
Do you have an objective way to answer this question?
Also, are you proposing that men get to choose mates without parental oversight, possibly due to waiting longer to marry due to staying fertile longer?
The question is whether it on average works better than letting women chose their boyfriends and husbands without any parental oversight.
Do you have an objective way to answer this question?
You can compare happiness or fertility or whatever your favorite metric is between cultures that have different attitudes about this.
Also, are you proposing that men get to choose mates without parental oversight, possibly due to waiting longer to marry due to staying fertile longer?
Do men tend to make bad choices? Who are the male equivalents of Henry’s wives?
You can compare happiness or fertility or whatever your favorite metric is between cultures that have different attitudes about this.
Well, a quick search seems to indicate that there’s no difference in average happyness and it seems probable that this could solve problems of dysgenics (assuming that the ‘right sort of people’ adopt this as quick or quicker than average) so I think I shall concede this point.
Do men tend to make bad choices? Who are the male equivalents of Henry’s wives?
Everyone makes bad choices. Men are the victims of emotionally abusive relationship at the same rate as women (the technical term for this is ‘pussy whipped’) although women are abused physically more.
I can imagine this future. I certainly wouldn’t say that there’s anything wrong with BDSM, but probably best to leave it to adults to discover of their own accord.
Oh, ok now I understand. Reminds me of a woman I once knew who decided she couldn’t associate (romantically or platonically) with any of her colleagues who were younger and lower-status than her, whether male or female. Its interesting, because she describes herself as a communist.
No, but I’d guess she’s probably better off than that woman. I’ve already read that SSC article, and I understand your point, but I would hope that there is some way of avoiding the Henrys of the world without anyone ever having to say “If I try to run away from home my family will break my legs”. Of course, there is a difference between forced marriages and arranged marriages.
I don’t thing even Jim advocates going that far. His position is more, “if I run away from home no one will financially support me and my status will go through the floor”.
It is true that the case I mentioned is a fairly extreme (but real) example, and not representative of arranged marriages in general. There is still a problem that even if it works in the case of benevolent and wise parents, it is really open to abuse.
The question is whether it on average works better than letting women chose their boyfriends and husbands without any parental oversight.
Do you have an objective way to answer this question?
Also, are you proposing that men get to choose mates without parental oversight, possibly due to waiting longer to marry due to staying fertile longer?
You can compare happiness or fertility or whatever your favorite metric is between cultures that have different attitudes about this.
Do men tend to make bad choices? Who are the male equivalents of Henry’s wives?
Well, a quick search seems to indicate that there’s no difference in average happyness and it seems probable that this could solve problems of dysgenics (assuming that the ‘right sort of people’ adopt this as quick or quicker than average) so I think I shall concede this point.
Everyone makes bad choices. Men are the victims of emotionally abusive relationship at the same rate as women (the technical term for this is ‘pussy whipped’) although women are abused physically more.