This is a special case of a general problem. There are lots of solutions, it just doesn’t seem likely that any will be implemented (unless, as rumor has it, there is already a secret forum to discuss other subjects that less wrongers are only invited to when they have proven themselves).
Also, I’m not sure that just saying: “Hey people! Talk about politics over here. ” is going to lead to a great discussion. I’d be much more interested in a discussion of how and where what we have in common as rationalists should affect our political views. It seems likely that we all ought to be able to come to important but limited agreements (about how to think about policy, about how the policy making process should be organized, and about a select few policy issues- religious issues, science, maybe a few more) from which we could expand to other areas, constructively. Maybe we all end up as ‘liberaltarians’ maybe not. But there needs to be a common starting point or everyone will just default to signaling, talking points and rhetorical warfare.
That’s the post I was trying to find, and failing. However, if there is such a conspiracy (beyond simply random chats between clever people) it’s either quite small or not done by Karma or you (with nearly exactly 10 times my karma count) would have been invited.
I have a parallel problem at University: trying to find discussion groups, debating societies, etc. where people agree enough on the basics and are interested in the truth, are small enough that signalling isn’t too great a problem and entery is suffiently easy for me to be able to speak and yet large enough to self-perpetuate.
Maybe Econlog or somesuch should create a LessWrong Parallel?
This is a special case of a general problem. There are lots of solutions, it just doesn’t seem likely that any will be implemented (unless, as rumor has it, there is already a secret forum to discuss other subjects that less wrongers are only invited to when they have proven themselves).
Also, I’m not sure that just saying: “Hey people! Talk about politics over here. ” is going to lead to a great discussion. I’d be much more interested in a discussion of how and where what we have in common as rationalists should affect our political views. It seems likely that we all ought to be able to come to important but limited agreements (about how to think about policy, about how the policy making process should be organized, and about a select few policy issues- religious issues, science, maybe a few more) from which we could expand to other areas, constructively. Maybe we all end up as ‘liberaltarians’ maybe not. But there needs to be a common starting point or everyone will just default to signaling, talking points and rhetorical warfare.
That’s the post I was trying to find, and failing. However, if there is such a conspiracy (beyond simply random chats between clever people) it’s either quite small or not done by Karma or you (with nearly exactly 10 times my karma count) would have been invited.
I have a parallel problem at University: trying to find discussion groups, debating societies, etc. where people agree enough on the basics and are interested in the truth, are small enough that signalling isn’t too great a problem and entery is suffiently easy for me to be able to speak and yet large enough to self-perpetuate.
Maybe Econlog or somesuch should create a LessWrong Parallel?