Currently the code puts a post back to the top when it is moved from “draft” to “published”. AFAICT there is no way to republish a post that has been moved to draft without bumping it to the top.
The bump was semi-intentional (there were substantial edits for clarity and brevity which the draft stage let me preview, but also I wanted to see more discussion), and happened a total of two times over the past week. “Constantly on top” is a slight exaggeration on Kawoomba’s part, as it was not on the recent posts lists for a while yesterday and also was in my drafts for some time thereafter while I made changes. As a long time member, I’m used to seeing posts be visible in discussion for this amount of time. This post is intended to eventually end up in Main, if I work up the confidence for it.
Right. It’s getting obnoxious, please don’t do that.
Is there some particular harm in bumping posts with substantial edits? Or are you trying to criticize my particular edits as not worthy of the bump?
Edit: Regardless of he reason, sincere apologies to anyone who was annoyed. I do understand the need to keep obnoxious behaviors low because this interferes with the participation fun level for the whole community.
Is there some particular harm in bumping posts with substantial edits?
A rule like “don’t exploit a bug to bump your own posts, period” is much easier to enforce than if you allow exceptions for a fuzzy category of posts with “substantial edits”—posters might be tempted to use that to attract extra attention, or suspect others of doing that.
More specifically, the “landscape” is already moving enough with back-and-forths between main and discussion, and people renaming their posts; if people start bumping their posts up keeping track of what I read and where there is interesting conversation will be even more of a hassle.
That makes sense, and also matches my prior intuitions as to what it might be. Thank you.
I think part of the problem is that I was operating on a mindset of a smaller / lower traffic group where this kind of promotion is has a relatively minor effect and less power to annoy others (as opposed to drawing them into a conversation that they might actually like).
In a larger userbase like we’re currently seeing for Discussion, ensuring fun for all participants is more dependent on these kinds of self-filtering rules/norms being followed more strictly. I’ve commented in open thread expressing a desire for more subreddits, and will be more careful in Discussion.
Currently the code puts a post back to the top when it is moved from “draft” to “published”. AFAICT there is no way to republish a post that has been moved to draft without bumping it to the top.
The bump was semi-intentional (there were substantial edits for clarity and brevity which the draft stage let me preview, but also I wanted to see more discussion), and happened a total of two times over the past week. “Constantly on top” is a slight exaggeration on Kawoomba’s part, as it was not on the recent posts lists for a while yesterday and also was in my drafts for some time thereafter while I made changes. As a long time member, I’m used to seeing posts be visible in discussion for this amount of time. This post is intended to eventually end up in Main, if I work up the confidence for it.
Right. It’s getting obnoxious, please don’t do that.
Is there some particular harm in bumping posts with substantial edits? Or are you trying to criticize my particular edits as not worthy of the bump?
Edit: Regardless of he reason, sincere apologies to anyone who was annoyed. I do understand the need to keep obnoxious behaviors low because this interferes with the participation fun level for the whole community.
A rule like “don’t exploit a bug to bump your own posts, period” is much easier to enforce than if you allow exceptions for a fuzzy category of posts with “substantial edits”—posters might be tempted to use that to attract extra attention, or suspect others of doing that.
More specifically, the “landscape” is already moving enough with back-and-forths between main and discussion, and people renaming their posts; if people start bumping their posts up keeping track of what I read and where there is interesting conversation will be even more of a hassle.
That makes sense, and also matches my prior intuitions as to what it might be. Thank you.
I think part of the problem is that I was operating on a mindset of a smaller / lower traffic group where this kind of promotion is has a relatively minor effect and less power to annoy others (as opposed to drawing them into a conversation that they might actually like).
In a larger userbase like we’re currently seeing for Discussion, ensuring fun for all participants is more dependent on these kinds of self-filtering rules/norms being followed more strictly. I’ve commented in open thread expressing a desire for more subreddits, and will be more careful in Discussion.