We already donate based on the assumption that superhuman AI is possible and that it is right to base our decisions on extrapolated utility of it and a possible galactic civilisation. Why are we not able to make decisions based on a more evidence based economic and physical assumption of a universe that is unable to sustain a galactic civilisation for most of its lifespan and the extrapolated suffering that is a conclusion of this prediction?
What kind of decisions were you planning to take? You surely wouldn’t want to make a “friendly AI” that’s hardcoded to wipe out humanity; you’d expect it to come to the conclusion that that’s the best option by itself, based on CEV. I’d want it to explain its reasoning in detail, but I might even go along with that.
My argument is that it’s too early to take any decisions at all. We’re still in the data collection phase, and the state of reality is such that I wouldn’t trust anything but a superintelligence to be right about the consequences of our various options anyway.
We can decide that such a superintelligence is right to create, yes. But having decided that, it makes an awful lot of sense to punt most other decisions over to it.
We can decide that such a superintelligence is right to create, yes. But having decided that, it makes an awful lot of sense to punt most other decisions over to it.
True, I have to read up on CEV and see if there was a possibility that a friendly AI could decide to kill us all to reduce suffering in the long-term.
The whole idea in the OP stems from the kind of negative utilitarianism that sgggests that it is not worth to torture 100 people infinitel to make billions happy. So I thought to extrapolate this and see what if we figure out that in the long run most entities will be suffering?
Negative utilitarianism is.. interesting, but I’m pretty sure it holds an immediate requirement to collectively commit suicide no matter what (short of continued existence, inevitably(?) ended by death, possibly being less bad than suicide, which seems unlikely) - am I wrong?
That’s not at all similar to your scenario, which holds the much more reasonable assumption that the future might be a net negative even while counting the positives.
We already donate based on the assumption that superhuman AI is possible and that it is right to base our decisions on extrapolated utility of it and a possible galactic civilisation. Why are we not able to make decisions based on a more evidence based economic and physical assumption of a universe that is unable to sustain a galactic civilisation for most of its lifespan and the extrapolated suffering that is a conclusion of this prediction?
Well, first off..
What kind of decisions were you planning to take? You surely wouldn’t want to make a “friendly AI” that’s hardcoded to wipe out humanity; you’d expect it to come to the conclusion that that’s the best option by itself, based on CEV. I’d want it to explain its reasoning in detail, but I might even go along with that.
My argument is that it’s too early to take any decisions at all. We’re still in the data collection phase, and the state of reality is such that I wouldn’t trust anything but a superintelligence to be right about the consequences of our various options anyway.
We can decide that such a superintelligence is right to create, yes. But having decided that, it makes an awful lot of sense to punt most other decisions over to it.
True, I have to read up on CEV and see if there was a possibility that a friendly AI could decide to kill us all to reduce suffering in the long-term.
The whole idea in the OP stems from the kind of negative utilitarianism that sgggests that it is not worth to torture 100 people infinitel to make billions happy. So I thought to extrapolate this and see what if we figure out that in the long run most entities will be suffering?
Negative utilitarianism is.. interesting, but I’m pretty sure it holds an immediate requirement to collectively commit suicide no matter what (short of continued existence, inevitably(?) ended by death, possibly being less bad than suicide, which seems unlikely) - am I wrong?
That’s not at all similar to your scenario, which holds the much more reasonable assumption that the future might be a net negative even while counting the positives.