I thought it was the long-held consensus that PUA was dark-arts, possible mind-killer, potentially off-putting and off-topic. Suggestion to lukeprog is to use his (awesome) powers of research to pull up the old posts in which this consensus was reached before proceeding. I’ve had enough whiskey to prevent me from doing so.
I hadn’t read the “Of Exclusionary Speech” link and find that it and this comment together say everything that I had wanted to say on the issue. So thank you for finding and posting the links.
I thought it was the long-held consensus that PUA was dark-arts, possible mind-killer, potentially off-putting and off-topic. Suggestion to lukeprog is to use his (awesome) powers of research to pull up the old posts in which this consensus was reached before proceeding. I’ve had enough whiskey to prevent me from doing so.
The major posts appear to be ‘Of Exclusionary Speech and Gender Politics’ and ‘More art, less stink: Taking the PU out of PUA’.
Thanks for your comment.
Alicorn’s post, Sayeth the Girl, started of the discussion. It’s also been edited to include links to five followups (one of which you linked to).
Edit: in the interest of avoiding trivial inconveniences, here are links to the followups:
Roko (don’t ask why his name has been deleted)
orthonormal
Eliezer
Yvian
Wei_Dai
Thanks.
I hadn’t read the “Of Exclusionary Speech” link and find that it and this comment together say everything that I had wanted to say on the issue. So thank you for finding and posting the links.
Alicorn’s post, Sayeth the Girl, started of the
flame warAlicorn’s post, Sayeth the Girl, started of the
flame war<\strike>Is it just me, or are the terms “dark arts” and “mind-killer” becoming some of the biggest mind-killers and forms of dark arts on LessWrong?
I think it’s just you. The terms themselves are probably overused, but the concerns behind them are real.