From my observations and experiences, i don’t see sincere ethics motivations anymore.
I see Elon gaslighting about the LLM-powered bit problem on the platform he bought.
Side note: Bots interacting and collecting realtime novel human data over time is hugely valuable from a training perspective. Having machines simulate all future data is fundamentally not plausible, becuase it can’t account for actual human evolution over generations.
X has also done maximally the for-profit motivated actions, at user expense and cost. For instance: allowing anyone to get blue checks by buying them. This literally does nothing. X’s spin that it helps is deliberate deception becuase they aren’t actual dumb guys. With the amount of stolen financial data and PII for sale on the black market, there’s literally 0 friction added for scammers.
Scammers happen to have the highest profit margins, so, what they’ve done is actually made it harder for ethics to prevail. Over time, I, an ethical entrepreneur or artist, must constantly compromise and adopt less ethical tactics to keep competitive with the ever accelerating crop of crooks who keep scaling their LLM botnets competing against each other. It’s a forcing function.
Why would X do this? Profit. As that scenario scales, so does their earnings.
(Plus they get to train models on all that data) (that only they own)
Is anything fundamentally flawed in that logic? 👆
Let’s look at OpenAI, and importantly, their chosen “experimental partnership programs” (which means: companies they give access to the unreleased models the public can’t get access to).
Just about every major YC or silicon valley venture backed player that has emerged over the past two years has had this “partnership” privileged. Meanwhile, all the LLM bots being deployed untraceably, are pushing a heavy message of “Build In Public”. (A message all the top execs at funds and frontier labs also espouse)
…. So…. Billionaires and giant corporations get to collude to keep the most capable inferencing power amongst themselves, while encouraging small businesses and inventors to publish all their tech?
That’s what I did. I never got a penny. Despite inventing some objectively best-in-class tech stack. Which is all on the timeline and easily verifiable.
Anyway. Not here to cause any trouble or shill any sob story. But I think you’re wrong in your characterization of the endemic capitalistic players. And mind you —they’re all collectively in control of AGI. While actively making these choices and taking these actions against actual humans (me, and I’m sure others I can’t connect with becuase the algorithms don’t favor me)
I think you’re assuming a sharp line between sincere ethics motivations and self-interest. In my view, that doesn’t usually exist. People are prone to believe things that suit their self-interest. That motivated reasoning is the biggest problem with public discourse. People aren’t lying, they’re just confused. I think Musk definitely and even probably Altman believe they’re doing the best thing for humanity—they’re just confused and not taking the effort to get un-confused.
I’m really sorry all of that happened to you. Capitalism is a harsh system, and humans are harsh beings when we’re competing. And confused beings, even when we’re trying not to be harsh. I didn’t have time to go through your whole story, but I fully believe you were wronged.
I think most villains are the heroes of their own stories. Some of us are more genuinely altruistic than others—but we’re all confused in our own favor to one degree or another.
So reducing confusion while playing to everyone’s desire to be a hero is one route to survival.
I would perhaps go even farther, most, maybe all, people don’t have any ‘sincere ethics’ whatsoever with a sharp boundary line, it’s nearly always quite muddled.
At least judging by actions.
Which upon reflection makes it sorta amazing any complex polity functions at all.
And in any case it’s probably safer to assume in business dealings that the counterparty is closer to the 50th percentile than to the 99.99th percentile.
From my observations and experiences, i don’t see sincere ethics motivations anymore.
I see Elon gaslighting about the LLM-powered bit problem on the platform he bought.
Side note: Bots interacting and collecting realtime novel human data over time is hugely valuable from a training perspective. Having machines simulate all future data is fundamentally not plausible, becuase it can’t account for actual human evolution over generations.
X has also done maximally the for-profit motivated actions, at user expense and cost. For instance: allowing anyone to get blue checks by buying them. This literally does nothing. X’s spin that it helps is deliberate deception becuase they aren’t actual dumb guys. With the amount of stolen financial data and PII for sale on the black market, there’s literally 0 friction added for scammers.
Scammers happen to have the highest profit margins, so, what they’ve done is actually made it harder for ethics to prevail. Over time, I, an ethical entrepreneur or artist, must constantly compromise and adopt less ethical tactics to keep competitive with the ever accelerating crop of crooks who keep scaling their LLM botnets competing against each other. It’s a forcing function.
Why would X do this? Profit. As that scenario scales, so does their earnings.
(Plus they get to train models on all that data) (that only they own)
Is anything fundamentally flawed in that logic? 👆
Let’s look at OpenAI, and importantly, their chosen “experimental partnership programs” (which means: companies they give access to the unreleased models the public can’t get access to).
Just about every major YC or silicon valley venture backed player that has emerged over the past two years has had this “partnership” privileged. Meanwhile, all the LLM bots being deployed untraceably, are pushing a heavy message of “Build In Public”. (A message all the top execs at funds and frontier labs also espouse)
…. So…. Billionaires and giant corporations get to collude to keep the most capable inferencing power amongst themselves, while encouraging small businesses and inventors to publish all their tech?
That’s what I did. I never got a penny. Despite inventing some objectively best-in-class tech stack. Which is all on the timeline and easily verifiable.
But I can’t compete. And guess who emerged mere months after I had my breakthrough? I document it here: https://youtu.be/03S8QqNP3-4?si=chgiBocUkDn-U5E6
Anyway. Not here to cause any trouble or shill any sob story. But I think you’re wrong in your characterization of the endemic capitalistic players. And mind you —they’re all collectively in control of AGI. While actively making these choices and taking these actions against actual humans (me, and I’m sure others I can’t connect with becuase the algorithms don’t favor me)
I think you’re assuming a sharp line between sincere ethics motivations and self-interest. In my view, that doesn’t usually exist. People are prone to believe things that suit their self-interest. That motivated reasoning is the biggest problem with public discourse. People aren’t lying, they’re just confused. I think Musk definitely and even probably Altman believe they’re doing the best thing for humanity—they’re just confused and not taking the effort to get un-confused.
I’m really sorry all of that happened to you. Capitalism is a harsh system, and humans are harsh beings when we’re competing. And confused beings, even when we’re trying not to be harsh. I didn’t have time to go through your whole story, but I fully believe you were wronged.
I think most villains are the heroes of their own stories. Some of us are more genuinely altruistic than others—but we’re all confused in our own favor to one degree or another.
So reducing confusion while playing to everyone’s desire to be a hero is one route to survival.
I would perhaps go even farther, most, maybe all, people don’t have any ‘sincere ethics’ whatsoever with a sharp boundary line, it’s nearly always quite muddled.
At least judging by actions.
Which upon reflection makes it sorta amazing any complex polity functions at all.
And in any case it’s probably safer to assume in business dealings that the counterparty is closer to the 50th percentile than to the 99.99th percentile.