I get their concerns about Google, but I don’t get why they emphasize Demis. Makes it seem like there’s more to it than “he happens to be DeepMind’s CEO atm”
The fact that Demis is a champion Diplomacy player suggests that there is more to him than meets the eye. Diplomacy is a game won by pretending to be allies with as many people as possible for as long as possible before betraying them at the most optimal time. Infamous for harming friendships when played with friends.
Not that I think this suggests Demis is a bad person, just that there is reason to be extra unsure about his internal stance from examining his public statements.
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@lc gave a ‘skeptical’ react to this comment. I’m not sure which bit is causing the skepticism. Maybe lc is skeptical that being a champion level player in games of strategic misdirection is reason to believe someone is skilled at strategic misdirection? Or maybe the skepticism is about this being relevant to the case at hand? Perhaps the people discussing Demis and ambitions of Singleton-creation and world domination aren’t particularly concerned about specifically Demis, but rather generally about an individual competent and ambitious enough to pull off such a feat?
I dunno. I feel more inclined to put my life in Demis’ hands than Sam’s or Elon’s if forced to make a choice, but I would prefer not to have to. I also would take any of the above having Singleton-based Decisive Strategic Advantage over a nuclear-and-bioweapon-fought-WWIII.
So hard to forsee consequences, and we have only limited power as bystanders. Not no power though.
Hassabis is a five-times winner of the all-round world board games championship (the Pentamind), and an expert player of many games including:[34]
Chess: achieved Master standard at age 13 with ELO rating of 2300 (at the time the second-highest in the world for his age after Judit Polgár)[144]
Diplomacy: World Team Champion in 2004, 4th in 2006 World Championship[145]
Poker: cashed at the World Series of Poker six times including in the Main Event[146]
Multi-games events at the London Mind Sports Olympiad: World Pentamind Champion (five times: 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003)[147] and World Decamentathlon Champion (twice: 2003, 2004)
Presumably it was because Google had just bought DeepMind, back when it was the only game in town?
I get their concerns about Google, but I don’t get why they emphasize Demis. Makes it seem like there’s more to it than “he happens to be DeepMind’s CEO atm”
The fact that Demis is a champion Diplomacy player suggests that there is more to him than meets the eye. Diplomacy is a game won by pretending to be allies with as many people as possible for as long as possible before betraying them at the most optimal time. Infamous for harming friendships when played with friends.
Not that I think this suggests Demis is a bad person, just that there is reason to be extra unsure about his internal stance from examining his public statements.
Edit: @lc gave a ‘skeptical’ react to this comment. I’m not sure which bit is causing the skepticism. Maybe lc is skeptical that being a champion level player in games of strategic misdirection is reason to believe someone is skilled at strategic misdirection? Or maybe the skepticism is about this being relevant to the case at hand? Perhaps the people discussing Demis and ambitions of Singleton-creation and world domination aren’t particularly concerned about specifically Demis, but rather generally about an individual competent and ambitious enough to pull off such a feat?
I dunno. I feel more inclined to put my life in Demis’ hands than Sam’s or Elon’s if forced to make a choice, but I would prefer not to have to. I also would take any of the above having Singleton-based Decisive Strategic Advantage over a nuclear-and-bioweapon-fought-WWIII.
So hard to forsee consequences, and we have only limited power as bystanders. Not no power though.
From Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demis_Hassabis