how likely is a non-black belt to become involved in a fight as a result of asking the boss for a rise? That sounds like the kind of thing that gets on the news when it happens.
That’s not what I’m arguing. Emotions don’t come through rational analysis of a situation.
I don’t know what’s the relevance of that. I don’t have to do a rational analysis of the situation to know that the boss is not going to beat me up.
I mean, a reasonable-looking middle-aged person whom I’ve know for a while wearing a pullover in the office during the day sounds like the least likely person to possibly come across as dangerous, don’t they? Compare with (say) an aggressive-looking twentysomething total stranger with short hair and tattoos and a tight-fitting T-shirt outside a night club during the night. I can see why martial arts training would make me less nervous near the latter (given that the smaller they are the less they scare me), but not near the former (given that I don’t even notice their size unless it’s extreme or I pay conscious attention to it).
I don’t know what’s the relevance of that. I don’t have to do a rational analysis of the situation to know that the boss is not going to beat me up.
That doesn’t change that you will feel different emotions and weaker when you face a boss that smaller than you as when you face a physically fit boss that’s taller than you.
In the US you don’t become president by beating up other people yourself with your bare hands. All the presidents are still over average height. Height matters for political fights as it has physical effects.
I have added a second paragraph to my comment after the first submission; have you read it?
That doesn’t change that you will feel different emotions and weaker when you face a boss that smaller than you as when you face a physically fit boss that’s taller than you.
I. Fucking. Don’t. Maybe I would if I had beaten up regularly when growing up, or if I witnessed people beating each other up all the time (in meatspace or on the TV), but I haven’t, and I don’t. The emotions I feel when facing superiors feel like admiration for such a smart person or incredulity that such a stupid person would get that position, not nervousness because they are bigger or smugness because they are smaller. I wouldn’t be able to tell how tall my doctoral advisor is to within better than a few inches from memory.
Please stop claiming that you know what I feel like better than myself.
In the US you don’t become president by beating up other people yourself with your bare hands. All the presidents are still over average height. Height matters for political fights as it has physical effects.
Yeah, and there are totally no possible confounds there. Also, my set of emotional responses is totally representative of that of most American voters. Yeah. (As for height, I’m 1.87 m (6′2″) and I more often wish that I was shorter than that I was taller. And the average 20-year-old man could still probably beat the crap out of me if he wanted to, though probably he doesn’t know that.)
Also, there was some comment somewhere on LW where someone had looked up the heights of all the top-class 20th century scientists they could think of, and the tallest was Tesla at 6′2″ and all but a couple were less than 6′. And I’d sure consider them much more of a role model than the POTUSes.
That’s not what I’m arguing. Emotions don’t come through rational analysis of a situation.
I don’t know what’s the relevance of that. I don’t have to do a rational analysis of the situation to know that the boss is not going to beat me up.
I mean, a reasonable-looking middle-aged person whom I’ve know for a while wearing a pullover in the office during the day sounds like the least likely person to possibly come across as dangerous, don’t they? Compare with (say) an aggressive-looking twentysomething total stranger with short hair and tattoos and a tight-fitting T-shirt outside a night club during the night. I can see why martial arts training would make me less nervous near the latter (given that the smaller they are the less they scare me), but not near the former (given that I don’t even notice their size unless it’s extreme or I pay conscious attention to it).
That doesn’t change that you will feel different emotions and weaker when you face a boss that smaller than you as when you face a physically fit boss that’s taller than you.
In the US you don’t become president by beating up other people yourself with your bare hands. All the presidents are still over average height. Height matters for political fights as it has physical effects.
I have added a second paragraph to my comment after the first submission; have you read it?
I. Fucking. Don’t. Maybe I would if I had beaten up regularly when growing up, or if I witnessed people beating each other up all the time (in meatspace or on the TV), but I haven’t, and I don’t. The emotions I feel when facing superiors feel like admiration for such a smart person or incredulity that such a stupid person would get that position, not nervousness because they are bigger or smugness because they are smaller. I wouldn’t be able to tell how tall my doctoral advisor is to within better than a few inches from memory.
Please stop claiming that you know what I feel like better than myself.
Yeah, and there are totally no possible confounds there. Also, my set of emotional responses is totally representative of that of most American voters. Yeah. (As for height, I’m 1.87 m (6′2″) and I more often wish that I was shorter than that I was taller. And the average 20-year-old man could still probably beat the crap out of me if he wanted to, though probably he doesn’t know that.)
Also, there was some comment somewhere on LW where someone had looked up the heights of all the top-class 20th century scientists they could think of, and the tallest was Tesla at 6′2″ and all but a couple were less than 6′. And I’d sure consider them much more of a role model than the POTUSes.